From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 21:00:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5FC16A4CE; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:00:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459DE43D1D; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:00:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205])j0EKmYcw011615; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:48:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) j0EL02vM003077; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:00:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0EL01Il003057; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:00:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:00:00 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20050114210000.GP617@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20050114102331.GB617@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20050114102937.GA31098@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050114111005.GC617@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20050114.135132.112620761.imp@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050114.135132.112620761.imp@harmony.village.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE cc: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr cc: den@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: doc-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config chapter.sgml X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:00:15 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 01:51:32PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > In fact with old ISA cards and 4.X, you have to pass some settings to > > the card (I/O port, IRQ, etc.), and the easiest way to do it is via the > > kernel config line (it's possible to override at boot these settings but > > not easy, if my memories are good), so in that case the modules bring > > nothing. To sum up, it may be a good thing to push ISA NIC users to > > build a custom kernel to support their cards. I'd even add does it > > worth to talk too much about ISA NICs? > > Non PNP cards, yes. In 5.x, you can add a few lines to loader.conf > and/or device.hints and load just fine. > Yes, that's exactly the same thing for example with the sound cards, in the case of non-PnP ISA cards, the modules should not be used if your card does not use default settings (I'm talking about 4.X). I have a question, does kernel.conf settings may be used to pass settings to kernel modules under 4.X? Marc