From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Mar 24 2:40:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pc89225.stofanet.dk (pc89225.stofanet.dk [212.10.22.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DDF937B71B for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:40:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from morten@hotpost.dk) Received: (qmail 10337 invoked by uid 1000); 24 Mar 2001 10:40:49 -0000 From: morten@hotpost.dk Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:40:49 +0100 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs OpenBSD Message-ID: <20010324114049.A10220@hotpost.dk> Mail-Followup-To: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <5515358965.20010322121835@iname.com> <20010322071957.A5319@hotpost.dk> <20010322041650.B2141@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010322041650.B2141@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 04:16:50AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The cacophony of voices in my head Inform me that Kris Kennaway said: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 07:19:57AM +0100, morten@hotpost.dk wrote: > > > OpenBSD is a more "full" UNIX, it has OpenSSH, sudo kerberos and such > > installed in the base system. > > I take exception to this statement. FreeBSD has those things either > in the base system or the ports collection where they're a command > away from being installed on your system (sudo). It doesn't make it > any more or less a "full" UNIX, IMO. You're absolutely right, it came out wrong. I should have written that OpenBSD is a more full OS; for my needs I could make do with the OpenBSD base system, though I would like to have Netscape also ... X isn't considered a part of the FreeBSD base system, is it? It is in OpenBSD = audited code and kerberosIV support. What I meant was that OpenBSD have more programs installed in the base system than FreeBSD, e.g. lynx and apache, which I find to be very important additions. I don't personally use apache, but many people do. > > OpenBSD have the best manpages I've ever seen, I love them. > > Could you explain in what ways you think they're better than the > FreeBSD manpages? Yes. I seem to find better references through 'man-k' in OpenBSD than FreeBSD, and that's Good. If you're a clueless newbie on OpenBSD you might type 'help' at the prompt and you'll get it (the help manpage with pointers to man(1), whatis(1), whereis(1), afterboot(8), and a short intro to UNIX commands). The afterboot(8) manpage is a good addition, read it at http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=afterboot&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=OpenBSD+Current&arch=i386&format=html to see what I'm talking about. That's a Good Idea, in OpenBSD _I_ found a nice introduction to BSD YMMV. FreeBSD does have a very good build system, and a huge ports collection, a definite bonus for a (primarily) workstation user like me, and it has a large userbase, more people to ask questons. :-) Sorry for the late reply, I've been out of town the last two days, and wouldn't abuse my friends' dialup lines for ssh'ing a reply from my home machine ... Regards Morten -- lynx -source http://home1.stofanet.dk/liebach/pgpkey.html | gpg --import - UNIX, reach out and grep someone! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message