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Date:      Mon, 19 Dec 2016 23:17:24 -0600
From:      John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>
To:        Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
Cc:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>, Boris Samorodov <bsam@passap.ru>, "ports@FreeBSD.org Ports" <ports@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Subscription for committer
Message-ID:  <23944cf2-852b-ef5b-7837-dfb084c2f32d@marino.st>
In-Reply-To: <20161220022257.GA30196@lonesome.com>
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On 12/19/2016 20:22, Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 07:07:06PM -0600, John Marino wrote:
>> It's a natural reaction to stop attempting to contribute when previous
>> contributions don't get "attention they deserve".
>
> Which some people (including me) see as odds with:
>
>> the impression that portmaster is officially recommended [has] to be
>> stamped out
>
> People tend to put off working on topics that include "demands".
>
> It's just human nature.
>
> Plus, there are thousands of other PRs to work on that don't involve such
> charged language.  Working on those is more rewarding and less frustrating.

It was decided that any implied recommendation for portupgrade and 
portmaster in FreeBSD documentation has to be removed.  The docs people 
are aware of the decision and are charged to implement it.  It's not 
"my" demand.  If valid PRs are in a moving queue, fine.  If valid PRs 
are being conveniently and intentionally forgotten, I would say that's 
not fine.

and mcl: I challenge you to identify *ANY* offputting language in PR 
214679.  You can't just imply that it exists when it doesn't.

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