From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 17 8: 3:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1465237B423; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id IAA14195; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:03:05 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda14193; Sun Sep 17 08:02:54 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA84647; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdp84645; Sun Sep 17 08:02:42 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) id e8HF2fp47484; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009171502.e8HF2fp47484@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdt47478; Sun Sep 17 08:01:52 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: Garance A Drosihn , Kris Kennaway , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'll be rolling a 4.1.1 release on September 25th In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 Sep 2000 02:41:46 PDT." <8077.969183706@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:01:52 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <8077.969183706@winston.osd.bsdi.com>, Jordan Hubbard writes: > > You left out the exact steps on how someone who does not have > > commit privs is supposed to "get their patch applied". I, for > > one, have found that process frustrating. > > If I may try and distill this entire discussion down to a single > concrete "action item" which serves everyone's purposes without > attempting to negate reality in any way: > > What we appear to need here is a "How to get something into FreeBSD" > FAQ or tutorial which essentially codifies the instructions on how and > where to bother developers and how, this being the volunteer world of > free software and all, you also run the risk of never getting your > patch in at all. That way nobody would have any unrealistic > expectations of the process or feel that insult to injury had just > been added when told to do something they may have already done. In > significant cases, it might even net us some more committers. That would be nice, but in my experience I've just submitted patches to gnats and eventually someone would notice. I don't have to bug anyone. The PR's get implemented eventually. Even as a maintainer for a few ports who doesn't have commit privileges, I don't find the process frustrating. I guess I don't see what all the fuss is about. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message