From owner-freebsd-security Wed Nov 29 10: 2:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEDC37B402 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17650; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:02:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:02:12 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200011291802.NAA17650@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Wes Peters Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NATD: failed to write packet back (Permission denied) In-Reply-To: <3A253A44.D7EA9113@softweyr.com> References: <001701c057c4$1e1ac010$0200a8c0@n2> <20001126110756.C34151@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> <000b01c057dd$f9423ab0$0200a8c0@n2> <20001126113720.A70192@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> <3A2183E7.6039C582@FreeBSD.org> <20001126140033.E70192@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> <3A218C5B.9F677E51@FreeBSD.org> <200011270130.UAA88239@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <3A221402.D88321D8@softweyr.com> <14882.49100.131730.989201@nomad.yogotech.com> <3A24AC77.51EF28C@softweyr.com> <200011291507.KAA16392@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <3A253A44.D7EA9113@softweyr.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < said: > But you keep saying "on my home machine" and seem to insist that having > a single machine on the internet at home is somehow normal. To a large fraction of the world's population, having a ``home machine'' of any kind is out of the ordinary. Most of the people who have net access today have only one computer. In any case, the actual number doesn't make much difference -- the same argument (that you are perfectly capable of setting up your machines securely) still holds. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message