From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Thu May 24 14:38:03 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AF5EF34CB for ; Thu, 24 May 2018 14:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from outbound1a.eu.mailhop.org (outbound1a.eu.mailhop.org [52.58.109.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C5EF6F027 for ; Thu, 24 May 2018 14:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) X-MHO-RoutePath: aGlwcGll X-MHO-User: 03dd1ca8-5f60-11e8-afd2-4ddcc8249dd4 X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Originating-IP: 67.177.211.60 X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP Received: from ilsoft.org (unknown [67.177.211.60]) by outbound1.eu.mailhop.org (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 03dd1ca8-5f60-11e8-afd2-4ddcc8249dd4; Thu, 24 May 2018 14:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rev (rev [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w4OEbf0h004191; Thu, 24 May 2018 08:37:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <1527172661.32688.129.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r333388 - in head: . share/man/man4 sys/confsys/dev/nxge sys/modules sys/modules/nxge tools/kerneldoc/subsys tools/toolstools/tools/nxge usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share From: Ian Lepore To: Cy Schubert , Stefan Esser , "rgrimes@freebsd.org" , Mark Linimon Cc: Gleb Smirnoff , Sean Bruno , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "src-committers@freebsd.org" Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 08:37:41 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20180523193027.825583BC@spqr.komquats.com> References: <20180523193027.825583BC@spqr.komquats.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 14:38:03 -0000 On Wed, 2018-05-23 at 12:30 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > Except for old computers and old software that segfaults on 64-bit, > how many people still use i386? > > Full disclosure: I'd like to see i386 deorbited before I retire. > > --- > Sent using a tiny phone keyboard. > Apologies for any typos and autocorrect. > Also, this old phone only supports top post. Apologies. > > Cy Schubert > or > The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. > --- At $work, we build products using i386. I would hope that if we started a new x86-based product we would be given the engineering budget to make it work on 64-bit, but you know how that sort of thing goes out the window when the time-and-budget management folks get involved.  But we have a repo containing 20 years worth of application code (well over a million lines) that has never run on 64-bit and may well need some attention (and lots of testing) to do so properly. i386 is not dead, and amd64 is not always necessary even for modern applications (our apps, for example, never need more than 512MB in a system). -- Ian