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Date:      Tue, 23 Feb 2021 23:41:20 -0800
From:      Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com>
To:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?
Message-ID:  <4ea6cf79bc2fec2c348b98d437b48ec8@bsdforge.com>
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On 2021-02-23 19:30, Mark Millard via freebsd-stable wrote:
> On 2021-Feb-23, at 18:08, Chris <bsd-lists at BSDforge.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2021-02-23 17:42, Mark Millard wrote:
>>> (Warner is only CC'd here.)
>>> Warner Losh imp at bsdimp.com wrote on
>>> Wed Feb 24 01:04:13 UTC 2021 :
>>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 4:51 PM Chris <bsd-lists at bsdforge.com> wrote:
>>>> > Given this is a pkg(8) error, I brought it up on ports@
>>>> > but it was suggested I (also?) bring it up here on stable@
>>>> >
>>>> > OK awhile back I installed a copy of 12 stable from the
>>>> > usb stick image. I tweaked it to my wishes then got called
>>>> > away and haven't been able to get back to it until the other
>>>> > day. This is still a fresh install which has a populated /usr/src.
>>>> > So I
>>>> > svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
>>>> > followed by a
>>>> > cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/ && make install clean
>>>> > which returns
>>>> > make
>>>> > /!\ ERROR: /!\
>>>> >
>>>> > Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no ports
>>>> > are
>>>> > guaranteed to build on this syst
>>>> em. Please upgrade to a supported release.
>>>> >
>>>> > No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
>>>> > ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.
>>>> >
>>>> > *** Error code 1
>>>> >
>>>> > Stop.
>>>> > Err what? Ok while I think this was from stable 12.1, it's still still 12,
>>>> > and it's on stable. So what gives?
>>>> >
>>>> 12.1 has reached EOL now that 12.2 has been out a while.
>>>> From release/12.1.0/ :
>>> "Tag releng/12.1@r354233 as release/12.1.0 (12.1-RELEASE)"
>>> I think that implicit in Warner's response is that
>>> versions of stable/12/ that are not after r354233 are
>>> also EOL. One needs to have stable/12/ material from
>>> after -r354233 in order for it to be supported.
>>> He might even mean that stable/12/ material from before:
>>> "Tag releng/12.2@r366954 as release/12.2.0 (12.2-RELEASE)"
>>> would also be considered as not supported.
>>> To be safe you should be using stable/12/ material from
>>> on or after -r366954 in order to have a supported
>>> context.
>>> (I'm not sure if anything is explicit about the status
>>> of stable/12/ material between releng/12.1@r354233
>>> and releng/12.2@r366954 .)
>> A HUGE thanks for all of this, Mark. This is EXACTLY what I needed.
>> 
>> # uname -apKU
>> FreeBSD fbsd12dev 12.1-STABLE FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE r363918 GENERIC  amd64 
>> amd64 1201522 1201522
>> which pretty well confirms what you deduced.
>> I'm still a bit confused. It seems to me that it didn't _used_
>> to be that way. But my brain isn't using ECC. So a couple of
>> bits may be flipped.
> 
> The implication of all of stable/12/ being supported
> would be support of stable/12/ from on or after its
> creation:
> 
> QUOTE
> Revision 339434 - Directory Listing
> Modified Fri Oct 19 00:09:24 2018 UTC (2 years, 4 months ago) by gjb
> Copied from: head revision 339432
> Copy head@r339432
>  to stable/12 as part of the 12.0-RELEASE cycle.
> 
> Additional post-branch commits will follow.
> END QUOTE
> 
> Such does not seem likely to me. What would be the
> point of dropping 12.0-RELEASE support and
> 12.1-RELEASE support if such stable/12/ history was
> covered, some of that history being minor variations
> on the 12.0-RELEASE or 12.1-RELEASE ?
> 
> Note:
> Despite some claims in other messages, svn -r363918
> is not 12.1-RELEASE ( not -r354233 ) and -r363918
> is shown as (only) in stable/12/ by svn. Your
> claim of 12-STABLE was correct, just not detailed
> enough.
Thanks. I really appreciate your taking the time to
clear things up for me. It also seems clear that I've
somehow mixed the purpose of RELEASE vs STABLE. :-/

Thanks again, Mark!

--Chris
> 
> 
> ===
> Mark Millard
> marklmi at yahoo.com
> ( dsl-only.net went
> away in early 2018-Mar)



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