From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 31 18:53:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCC616A4CE for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:53:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB91D43D45 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:53:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64870121A3; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:50:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <424C4605.607@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:48:37 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wizlayer@gmail.com References: <424C363A.8050700@chuckr.org> <200503311321.18143.wizlayer@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200503311321.18143.wizlayer@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: my ethernet to my laptop/getting the tcp/X11 socket up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:53:09 -0000 wizlayer wrote: > On Thursday 31 March 2005 12:41 pm, Chuck Robey wrote: > [snip] > >>I installed it, it worked with the rl0 driver. >>Sometimes. >> >>Why sometimes? Smart guy, that's question 1. The indication I >>get is, I get an error (tcp error) soemthing like this one >>below (they're not all alike): >> >>Mar 30 21:37:52 september kernel: rl0: discard frame w/o >>leading ethernet header (len 2 pkt len 2) >> >>Well, the result is always the same, which is that the rl0 line >>stops dead in it's tracks. I can do a ifconfig down/ifconfig >>up and clear it, but every time I do that, I take a 1 in 5 >>chance of getting a kernel panic. It's not something I crave >>to do a lot, so I can't just dismiss it by making a utility to >>down/up the interface. I need this fixed. >> >>[snip] >> >>I'm quite, *quite* willing to buy another ehternet card. The >>one I have is a D-Link, the dmesg reports: >> >>miibus0: on rl0 >>Mar 30 21:44:23 september kernel: rlphy0: >media interface> on miibus0 >>Mar 30 21:44:23 september kernel: rlphy0: 10baseT, >>10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >>Mar 30 21:44:23 september kernel: rl0: Ethernet address: >>00:0d:88:27:c4:38 >> >>OK, so I'm looking for advice on the ethernet problem, and >>maybe > > [snip] > > Are you sure the network card itself isn't hosed? > > I had a cheapo network card that did something very similar. In > fact, I'm pretty sure it had a realtek chipset too (although I'm > not lifting a finger in their direction)... Worked fine, then > weird errors and *lights out*... Turned out to be the NIC itself > (why sometimes? who knows... temperature, defunct buffer After a lot of swimming thru the mail search page, I found that there are a LOT of problems that have in common these items: 1) rl0 interface 2) FreeBSD5.3 3) error messages of the form "rl0: discard oversize frame" There are a pretty fair number of these, from various sources. Fact. At least one of them claimed it was solved in RELENG_5. Sure wish I could locate the other mails in THAT chain (I spent 20 minutes trying to). So my fix sounds like it boils down to one of two items: either getting someone who knows 5.3 better than I do to recommend a cardbus device that would be sound (a vendor) and I would run right out and buy it, or I suppose I could get the required sources burnt onto a cdrom, and get them on that laptop that way, recompile, and see about reinstalling. I am loath to try that second method only cause I have all that userland software that I mustn't lose compatibiilty with, and it's got all those dependencies (sleepycat database, python, gtk, 3 1/2 pounds of my coding). I want to do the minimum necessary to get it working. So, if one of you folks can recommend a cardbus card that I oughta buy, that doesn't use the rl0 driver, that would be nice. mail me a *.ko for it, and I would love you forever. Skip that last part if you want, cause maybe I could do it, but I wasn't joking about wanting to mess with this the least I can, it's a fragile stack of software. > maybe?). > > my .02, > > WizLayer > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, chuckr@chuckr.org | electronics, communications, and SF/Fantasy. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary (on the wall at my old fraternity, Signa Phi Nothing). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------