From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 09:40:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B46E16A4BF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D453543F85 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h7TGcbLa045871 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 29 Aug 2003 17:39:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)h7TGcbI1045870; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 17:38:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 17:38:37 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Jastonephd@aol.com Message-ID: <20030829163837.GA45517@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Jastonephd@aol.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <120.24ba178e.2c80ccd2@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <120.24ba178e.2c80ccd2@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Verio mover to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:40:18 -0000 --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 11:35:46AM -0400, Jastonephd@aol.com wrote: > Why if Verio has moved our sites to you, are they still charging us $6,00= 0=20 > per annum for hosting? > What is the viability of this server? > With the CA economy in dire straits, how secure is your future? FreeBSD isn't a for-profit corporation in the usual sense. It's rather a world-wide collection of volunteers with a common aim: to produce the FreeBSD operating system. As such it is much more resilient than any business. Furthermore, as FreeBSD is an open source operating system, there's no possibility that the operating system itself will disappear, even if the current project membership does decide to give up and do something else. There are hundreds of thousands of copies of the FreeBSD source code all round the Internet, and the BSD license terms specifically allow any usage of that code, commercial or otherwise so long as the appropriate copyright statements are maintained. Neither is the project particularly centered in or dependent on California. True, there are quite a few FreeBSD committers resident in that state, and major parts of the FreeBSD web infrastructure are located there. Not all, however. For example, one of the servers that makes up ftp.freebsd.org is actually located in Denmark. If California were to finally fall into the sea, the FreeBSD project would still go on. Verio may have moved their hosting business to use FreeBSD, which will certainly have reduced their per-server licencing costs, yes. However, that would only have been a small part of their cost base before moving over. The majority of the cost will be the running expenses of the hosting centers and the cost of bandwidth, both of which remain unchanged. If you don't think you're getting value for money, then you can vote with your feet, or threaten to, and see if they'll negociate. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/T4GNdtESqEQa7a0RAu9BAJ93rdadbkOK3qiVMNlOqOdWT3RXnwCcDjV/ M6K/Jk16NpN9RiG5vVDxCrU= =aCIb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn--