From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 23 15:26: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1488637B400 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-34-52.knology.net [24.214.34.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F02243E72 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:26:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7NMPmlt040531; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:25:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7NMPl3q040530; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:25:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:25:47 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Bill Moran Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm looking for low-cost, 120G backup solution. Message-ID: <20020823222547.GB40397@grumpy.dyndns.org> References: <3D6662D1.6090007@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3D6662D1.6090007@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 12:29:05PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > Hello all. > > I'm looking for a backup solution that can handle as much > as 120G (compressed) per tape. > I was pretty excited about OnStream's systems, except that > they don't seem to be supported by FreeBSD. Is anyone out > there using one of these reliably? At the prices you mentioned further down the thread, $1000 for the OnStream drive and $100 per tape one should give serious consideration to IDE drives as the backup "media". 80G drives are pretty easy to come by for under $100 each. A quick non-optimal price check suggests 120G for $165 and 160G for $265. So it boils down to how many archival copies does one require? (10) 120G tapes + drive is roughly $2000. (10) 120G IDE HD's is roughly $1650. Add something like an old PII-300 for $100 to $200 to host the backup HD's. You've said the data doesn't compress, so don't try. Dell Optiplex PII-300's and thru 450's were falling off 3 year leases this past year and used to be plentiful at ~$125-ish but I don't see many now where I was looking. Might want to add a UDMA ATA/IDE card to that. HD's are harder to handle than tapes. Have seen inexpensive removable trays but don't know how well they work. Rather than handle the HD's one could mount (4) in the backup machine and simply rotate their use. At work I have an 80G HD mounted in my MacOS X G4-400 and do nightly backups of PC's and Macs with Retrospect to this 80G drive. Is not as nice as an off-site archive but has saved our tail a couple of times. Much less wear and tear on the HD than my DDS-2 tape drive. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message