From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 27 09:52:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684A91065670 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout2.freenet.de (mout2.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009AD8FC13 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1Na4ZU-00071p-Vg; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:52:24 +0100 Received: from p57ae1733.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([87.174.23.51]:34264 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1Na4ZS-0001yI-Uf; Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:52:23 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:52:12 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Ed Schouten Message-ID: <20100127105212.23f15f50@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20100126200537.GJ77705@hoeg.nl> References: <20100126200537.GJ77705@hoeg.nl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4 (GTK+ 2.16.2; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: gone. All welcome . X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:52:30 -0000 On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:05:37 +0100 Ed Schouten wrote: > * Dirk Meyer wrote: > > 1. POLA > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/rules.html > > > > $ man utmp > > does not mention that this interafce is deprectaed (see 11.4) > > First of all, utmp(5) should no longer exist. Second of all, you clearly > seem to misread section 11.4, which says "whenever possible." > > Instead of just screaming POLA, could you please explain how I could > have introduced utmpx into FreeBSD without causing any breakage or > confusion among our users. As someone else already quoted earlier, our > old utmp interface was a landmine we buried ourselves. > My understanding has always been that POLA doesn't apply to HEAD. If you want to use HEAD then learn to live with that. --- Gary Jennejohn