From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 4 21:31:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E08716A41F; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:31:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtai09.cox.net (eastrmmtai09.cox.net [68.230.240.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5B943D45; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:31:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([68.103.32.140]) by centrmmtao06.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20050904210548.NWOP23224.centrmmtao06.cox.net@mezz.mezzweb.com>; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 17:05:48 -0400 To: "Jean-Yves Lefort" References: <200509032046.j83KkpQL082427@repoman.freebsd.org> <20050904124420.545395cb@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <20050904171849.21d7613c.jylefort@FreeBSD.org> <20050904185122.29cc5e11@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <20050904204037.04bda915.jylefort@FreeBSD.org> <20050904215045.1fa907f5@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <20050904222210.15eaa37f.jylefort@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 16:06:19 -0500 From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050904222210.15eaa37f.jylefort@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.02 (Linux, build 1272) Cc: cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Alexander Leidinger , alejandro@varnet.biz, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/games Makefile ports/games/linux-ut2003-demo Makefile distinfo pkg-descr ports/games/linux-ut2003-demo/files ut2003-demo.in X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:31:17 -0000 On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 15:22:10 -0500, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:50:45 +0200 > Alexander Leidinger wrote: > >> On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:40:37 +0200 >> Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: >> >> > On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 18:51:22 +0200 >> > Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> > >> > > On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 17:18:49 +0200 >> > > Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: >> > > >> > > > > > Log: >> > > > > > Add linux-ut2003-demo. >> > > > > >> > > > > Why is it necessary to generate the plist at install time? As >> far as I >> > > > > can see the port installs a fixed set of files and doesn't do >> any magic >> > > > > to prevent the installation of files depending on a complex set >> of >> > > > > options or the state of the moon. >> > > > >> > > > It reduces the size of the port by about 40kb, and eases future >> updates. >> > > >> > > We had a discussion on ports@ a while ago: As long as there are no >> very >> > > urgent reasons to use a install-time generated plist a maintainer >> > > should (as in: we point with fingers on you if you don't do it) use >> a >> > > static plist since it is more beneficial for most people. >> > >> > The pkg-plist/PLIST_*/MAN*/PORTDOCS/... set is not meant to be >> > human-readable. See x11/nvidia-driver/pkg-plist for an example. >> >> They are human-readable ATM and a lot of procedures rely on this. There >> are always exceptions, but the ut demo ports don't need to be >> an exception. Please reread the thread I mentioned before you come up >> with other arguments since it's beaten to death already. > > I disagree with your interpretation of human-readability. > > The output of pkg_info -L is human-readable. Isn't 'pkg_info -L' only can be seen if you installed port? What about non-install? I always support static plist by 100%. Cheers, Mezz > A mixture of @exec, > PLIST_SUB, PLIST_FILES, PLIST_DIRS, MANn, MANLANG, PORTDOCS, > USE_RC_SUBR, GCONF_SCHEMAS (and so on, ad nauseam) is not. > >> [suggestions about new metadata handling] >> >> This is out of the scope of what I want to discuss, feel free to start >> a new thread with a meaningful subject. > > No, my suggestions address all the concerns (minus the portlint one) > you raised in your January post to ports@. -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org