From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 16:22:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAC516A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:22:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out011.verizon.net (out011pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAEC43D31 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:22:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.189.143]) by out011.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050210162159.ETPP28171.out011.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:21:59 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8938B11E41 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 93533-06 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:21:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D07FD11E3A; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:21:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:21:50 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050210162150.GE89175@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200502092223.01650.algould@datawok.com> <1905317067.20050210103050@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out011.verizon.net from [68.163.189.143] at Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:21:59 -0600 Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such asNetBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:22:01 -0000 --yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/10/05 08:03 AM, Eric Kjeldergaard sat at the `puter and typed: > Anthony Atkielski writes: > > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >=20 > > > And, I am also concerned about the historical revisionists who > > > are claiming FreeBSD never had a logo. That is hogwash. > >=20 > > Where can I see the logo? > >=20 > > > Nobody ever said that FreeBSD lacked a logo until after a few days ago > > > when this ill-conceived competition was leaked - because everyone knew > > > the logo was Beastie. > >=20 > > That's not a logo. Just about every image I've seen of Beastie has been > > different, so it's not a logo, it's a character associated with the > > brand (like Mickey Mouse). Logos are simple and instantly recognizable; > > they do not mutate from one presentation to the next. Most open-source > > projects don't have logos; even Linux lacks a proper logo (one could > > probably be made from the popular penguin character, but I haven't seen > > any examples). > >=20 >=20 > Okay, I figured I just as well join in...seems like a good idea. I'm > choosing this email to respond to: randomly selected from a relatively > large number of messages expressing this same idea. >=20 > The logo can be seen on the website www.freeBSD.org. it is in fact a > relatively (from a printing perspective) high-resolution image of our > daemon, holding a pitchfork on his left side. He is slightly facing > forward, though looks off somewhat to the right. I know, "He's a > mascot, not a daemon"...but that's not entirely true (not true at > all?). dictionary.com says that a logo is a >=20 > A name, symbol, or trademark designed for easy and definite > recognition, especially one borne on a single printing plate or piece > of type. >=20 > or a=20 >=20 > n : a company emblem or device >=20 > These are definitely vague enough to not disqualify an image of our > daemon on technical merit. Further, FreeBSD proper calls the daemon > image our logo (see logo_saver.ko). Before I read another of these > stating that beastie is not a logo, I thought I should voice the fact > (not my opinion, mind you) that we do indeed have a logo, albeit one > that could use some modification to ease reproduction. (The latter > part being opinion) There are a couple other images labeled as logos on the FreeBSD site: http://www.freebsd.org/gifs/littlelogo.gif http://www.freebsd.org/gifs/powerlogo.gif Plus the fact that anyone who is even remotely familiar with FreeBSDs existence would immediately associate Beastie with FreeBSD. Yeah, maybe that is considered a mascot, but nothing I've seen supports the idea that the mascot can't be part of the logo. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 All life evolves by the differential survival of replicating entities. -- Dawkins --yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCC4oer4Wi/oDI2aIRAtbMAJ941rG5t9txNzdvZGcuLKQgBBwFXwCfQPAV +j4greGPxUjn7NGew0jMOT8= =p8Db -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yLVHuoLXiP9kZBkt--