From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 25 13:33:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6D737B401 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 13:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E423F43F93 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 13:33:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h3PKX1IM039767; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:33:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:33:01 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20030425203301.GU45035@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20030424214413.GC90097@grimoire.chen.org.nz> <20030425091950.GA558@dhumketu.homeunix.net> <3EA92FF1.30809@potentialtech.com> <20030425184813.GA674@dhumketu.homeunix.net> <448ytye5xj.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <3EA9925E.30201@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EA9925E.30201@potentialtech.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time Problem in 5.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 20:33:08 -0000 In the last episode (Apr 25), Bill Moran said: > I'm going to repeat myself here: > ntpdate is depreciated. The functionality in it is duplicated by > ntpd. It shouldn't even be in the 5.0 tree. I'm considering filing a > pr to request that it be removed. Opinions? ntpdate has two nice features: 1 - It runs in under a second. This is useful during the startup sequence, so you know all of your daemons come up with the right time. "ntpd -q" took 3 and 5 1/2 minutes to return my prompt on tests on two different machines. 2 - It accepts IP numbers on the commandline, so you don't need a config file to just get your time synched while you're setting a machine up or just want to test. Dave Mills has also deprecated the manpages, but enough people find them useful that FreeBSD and Debian still ship them. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com