From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 24 21:31:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52D316A420 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew-freebsd@areilly.bpc-users.org) Received: from omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com (omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com [144.140.82.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B3513C474 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew-freebsd@areilly.bpc-users.org) Received: from oaamta02ps.mx.bigpond.com ([124.188.162.219]) by omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20080124213112.XFZN9842.omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta02ps.mx.bigpond.com> for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:31:12 +0000 Received: from areilly.bpa.nu ([124.188.162.219]) by oaamta02ps.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20080124213112.OMOS4098.oaamta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@areilly.bpa.nu> for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:31:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 58360 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2008 21:30:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO duncan.reilly.home) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jan 2008 21:30:54 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:30:54 +1100 From: Andrew Reilly To: jahnke@sonatabio.com Message-ID: <20080125083054.1c782570@duncan.reilly.home> In-Reply-To: <1201197579.988.37.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> References: <1201122964.1006.21.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> <1201123185.62127.4.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1201125510.1006.26.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> <1201126951.62127.13.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1201127827.1006.29.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> <1201127976.62127.23.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1201134551.988.9.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> <1201135168.62127.25.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1201137039.988.13.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> <1201137113.62127.29.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080124230247.74fe8f61@duncan.reilly.home> <1201190392.24613.4.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1201193355.24613.10.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1201193749.988.26.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> <4798D117.7030406@marcuscom.com> <1201197579.988.37.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A090209.4799039F.01CF,ss=1,fgs=0 Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Epiphany Upgraded to 2.20.3 Crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:31:14 -0000 On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:59:39 -0800 Frank Jahnke wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 12:55 -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > If you don't use GDM, just set LANG in your usual shell RC file (e.g. > > .cshrc). You can also do the ~/.login_conf trick. Things are much > > easier when GDM is NOT in the picture when it comes to locale. > > Thanks. I do have it in .login_conf at the moment. This is way OT, but > why do people use GDM anyway? I like being able to exit X11 to the > command line easily, and GDM always has caused me problems. Am I > missing something? You're probably not really missing anything. I like that the gnome power management is still running, and will turn the monitor off, which is something that the console doesn't seem to be able to manage. (On this machine, even X couldn't do the DPMS thing on my monitor until a couple of weeks ago, for some reason.) I also like that (along with the rest of GNOME) it relieves me of manually futzing with yet another config file. (.xinitrc/.xdefaultrc). Of course, this issue has shown the dark side of this strategy in dark relief... It's pretty. (Well, prettier than default xdm, anyway.) And getting to the console is so easy that I'm a bit surprised that anyone has an issue with it. There are two ways that I use: If I just want to have a look at the console, to see if there are any messages that haven't made it into the system logs, then ctl-alt-F1 will do the VTY switch thing, and bingo: console. If I want there to be no X stuff running (say I'm portupgrading X or GNOME), then I shut it down with /usr/local/lib/etc/rc.d/gdm stop. Easy. -- Andrew