From owner-freebsd-xen@freebsd.org Tue Aug 16 11:08:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xen@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446D8BBB622 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=029c3005f=roger.pau@citrix.com) Received: from SMTP.CITRIX.COM (smtp.citrix.com [66.165.176.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.citrix.com", Issuer "DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1D371D9C for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=029c3005f=roger.pau@citrix.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.28,529,1464652800"; d="scan'208";a="372564144" Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:08:00 +0200 From: Roger Pau =?iso-8859-1?Q?Monn=E9?= To: CC: Subject: Re: Is it me or is FreeBSD slower on Xen than Linux? Message-ID: <20160816110759.6xlvxikw3tziahfd@mac> References: <20160816085455.46a5slqsbgauod5t@mac> <2a0a5ae2821551935de329b8665834be@ultra-secure.de> <20160816100605.la63x2ju5bmtdqhl@mac> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.2-neo (2016-06-11) X-DLP: MIA1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-xen@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of the freebsd port to xen - implementation and usage List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:08:09 -0000 On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:13:55PM +0200, rainer@ultra-secure.de wrote: > Am 2016-08-16 12:06, schrieb Roger Pau Monné: > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:29:43AM +0200, rainer@ultra-secure.de wrote: > > > Am 2016-08-16 10:54, schrieb Roger Pau Monné: > > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 05:54:52PM +0200, rainer@ultra-secure.de wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I've got a problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For a customer, I run a VM in Xen that should perform a certain task > > > > > in PHP > > > > > (written using the ZendFrameWork). > > > > > > > > > > That task takes about 18-20 seconds on FreeBSD 10.3 amd64, MariaDB > > > > > 5.5.0, > > > > > php 5.5.37 in a VM that has 8 vCPUs and 16GB of memory > > > > > The "reference" server that the customer uses is somewhere else and > > > > > manages > > > > > to perform the same task in 3s. > > > > > > > > > > I've tried this with FreeBSD 10.3, PHP7.0 and MariaDB 10.1 and it > > > > > takes > > > > > about 9s. > > > > > > > > In the sentence above, are you running it in a Xen VM or on bare metal? > > > > > > > > > > This is both Xen. > > > I think the customer is also running it on some sort of > > > virtualization. > > > > Hm, so a given workload on Xen takes ~9s, and it also takes ~9s when run > > on > > bare metal FreeBSD, is that right? > > > It only takes 9s with Linux as a Xen-guest. > With all things equal (PHP-version, MariaDB-version), FreeBSD is essentially > only half as fast as Linux as a Xen-guest. > Sorry for the confusion. > And FreeBSD on bare metal is equally fast as Linux then? (ie: the slowdown is only noticeable when running FreeBSD on Xen) > > > > > hw.xen.disable_pv_disks=1 > > > > hw.xen.disable_pv_nics=1 > > > > > > OK, can I still boot the VM with this or will NICs and disks show up > > > as > > > different devices then? > > > > NIC will show up as "re", disks as "ada" (which is what you already > > have). > > I tried this with the FreeBSD 11 VM mentioned in my other mail and it only > gets a bit slower. > Between 5% and 10%, I'd say. If you can provide me with some way to synthesize this workload that doesn't involve setting up the full stack plus your app I can try to reproduce it locally and analyze it in order to find the bottlenecks. Roger.