From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Sep 16 17:34:17 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649BC3EC429 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-f169.google.com (mail-il1-f169.google.com [209.85.166.169]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Bs6fJ1gQXz42r7 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-f169.google.com with SMTP id t18so7289656ilp.5 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:34:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=atNYZ+oipGv3B3soKsqwIOzv4mQjaQWaeqffAA0DnTw=; b=N5o7hO2K9JwrHBLXGih3AaU8trZsRgIU5xl1wjElRrUKbrFYHFkI3KDo2nXphBg5js 3W1CvFadqLDtbybVwzwqbGSNs4EdOHV19YVy1QSKViuFonJsia8+BPTqj4bUqBArPUJY TuNkGO9QU5Je2lPto+FMNHTUBG6arhzVovDay2+yucz+Eo9MetlRE5B7w6ouJp2fYIJ3 EL+C0MZArvdtXe82FrDTFeULlSkyw6cZrd/f6si08m9vLH/i9u/K9uwCDEwiles5bMTG ZS2cyKPbR9tX6sqS8p0MLZUK4WoJT7r4icjpWoUFhNT3jyRAVwZZGImkim3sOUOkHHn1 I5jA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533UrzWyVivmrWFvepFd15hRDWgMSAkyi0JmNQN7c3sdMNcdCyYC x+2JP+CPsnjqwlXoL63XxayOOyUBlzimn99VaeX219yfn/g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyIVSsAYmNcodRIT/gFVOw8m3gv5sY1aRWvnBcVFZs9svKsU91AYu665jhMulw8YrlRkJVkfnODTKYp6t1X+7c= X-Received: by 2002:a92:ba0a:: with SMTP id o10mr3280419ili.100.1600277654067; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:34:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ed Maste Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 13:34:02 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Deprecating ftpd in the FreeBSD base system? To: FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Bs6fJ1gQXz42r7 X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.86 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.12)[-0.116]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; TO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[carpeddiem]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.91)[-0.910]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.83)[-0.831]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.166.169:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.166.169:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:34:17 -0000 FTP is (becoming?) a legacy protocol, and I think it may be time to remove the ftp server from the FreeBSD base system - with the recent security advisory for ftpd serving as a reminder. I've proposed adding a deprecation notice to the man page in https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26447 to start this off. There are a number of ftp servers in ports, and if we're going to remove the base system one we can create a port for it first, as well. Any comments or concerns, please follow up in the code review or in email here.