From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 09:45:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B10316A4BF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kashmir.thend.org (kashmir.thend.org [63.162.108.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD00843FAF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from judge@Pavleck.Com) Received: from localhost (judge@localhost) by kashmir.thend.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA48686 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:45:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from judge@Pavleck.Com) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:45:03 -0600 (MDT) From: "Jeremy D. Pavleck" X-Sender: judge@kashmir.thend.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030829163837.GA45517@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Verio mover to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:45:00 -0000 Very well put! Almost sounds like a greeting card from Hallmark :-p ****************** Jeremy D. Pavleck jeremy@pavleck.com On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 11:35:46AM -0400, Jastonephd@aol.com wrote: > > Why if Verio has moved our sites to you, are they still charging us $6,000 > > per annum for hosting? > > What is the viability of this server? > > With the CA economy in dire straits, how secure is your future? > > FreeBSD isn't a for-profit corporation in the usual sense. It's > rather a world-wide collection of volunteers with a common aim: to > produce the FreeBSD operating system. As such it is much more > resilient than any business. Furthermore, as FreeBSD is an open > source operating system, there's no possibility that the operating > system itself will disappear, even if the current project membership > does decide to give up and do something else. There are hundreds of > thousands of copies of the FreeBSD source code all round the Internet, > and the BSD license terms specifically allow any usage of that code, > commercial or otherwise so long as the appropriate copyright > statements are maintained. > > Neither is the project particularly centered in or dependent on > California. True, there are quite a few FreeBSD committers resident in > that state, and major parts of the FreeBSD web infrastructure are > located there. Not all, however. For example, one of the servers > that makes up ftp.freebsd.org is actually located in Denmark. If > California were to finally fall into the sea, the FreeBSD project > would still go on. > > Verio may have moved their hosting business to use FreeBSD, which will > certainly have reduced their per-server licencing costs, yes. > However, that would only have been a small part of their cost base > before moving over. The majority of the cost will be the running > expenses of the hosting centers and the cost of bandwidth, both of > which remain unchanged. If you don't think you're getting value for > money, then you can vote with your feet, or threaten to, and see if > they'll negociate. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks > Savill Way > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow > Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK >