From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 04:05:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F25A1065673 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 04:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109398FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 04:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk27 with SMTP id 27so4116897qyk.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:05:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t/jJgik4pMXCD2KOy8RPxlnVKZI/GD3ZJCcvI/6siqQ=; b=bk0vmmqBrFbS6gbebVtJ9DgILh4N9pirvIWb45zPjhF+5k+06QOGvP3RUi/I+cezdF QZiSLOYHNAylIioyejeSsbGAuJoAxCE61sD9jNplERwae47ByBoFTjYy78Z2nXFEqqAH 9PfildGGPYxjkI82TPUIQT6OEFh+YSsgqWIb0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=s4v9LfMhHWXiTUApCyOCxWCQKqRt/zQuY4lKyMjpObH3ttnmekK3rNgicq0noQtTLU kHugtTFbqo6aBR3l9YkzNb0KzaAg7h8xW2A2y+/I40qkFzFgxDxjm3Zjv5sGXpHX0xIn splMJ4J6FWOTkVmHb0rMkLlF10H4RaiphYlnU= Received: by 10.229.105.71 with SMTP id s7mr3565165qco.23.1299555421096; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:37:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ivoras@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.78.193 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:36:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 04:36:21 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IBdMJq_Jhi93MU-HMj1waEnTeGM Message-ID: To: Lars Eighner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 04:05:24 -0000 On 7 March 2011 19:44, Lars Eighner wrote: > On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Ivan Voras wrote: > >> On 06/03/2011 19:56, Lars Eighner wrote: >>> >>> Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL of= f >>> in >>> ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a global >>> default? >>> >>> Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL withou= t >>> having a configuration switch? >> >> Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL? > > It breaks my mouse and keyboard. =C2=A0I assume it would break other stuf= f if I > had esoteric devices. > with HAL =3D nothing works > without HAL =3D everything works Interesting, I had 0 problems with HAL ever since it was made. >> It's the only cross-platform thing available for non-Linux systems which >> handles device enumeration, hotplugs, etc. >> > > I'm not running a cross-platform. =C2=A0I'm running FreeBSD. =C2=A0There = were native > FreeBSD solutions to hotplugging the devices I use before HAL. Good luck with running your FreeBSD with FreeBSD-only applications :)