From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Apr 19 07:03:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91417B14A21 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 07:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik+lists@cederstrand.dk) Received: from mailrelay3.public.one.com (mailrelay3.public.one.com [195.47.247.221]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01217176E for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 07:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik+lists@cederstrand.dk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=cederstrand.dk; s=20140924; h=from:subject:date:message-id:to:cc:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:references; bh=vMQ8VbH20BKEXOzFIP4VW3ZQb/SsUKzfsQCOQE6UCFM=; b=YcMG6d/5/XMztRwJxCg6YzyeWWOWIGCv6ek7g0SrRkqgOu8IlioqmKIzDmDXLcvaf8EfDOtaN8GAk GlZwejSVttndPuG2B7aZM7/87WvZsJX4EG73FjWk7RG5H8j6bXE5m1XTmNawGgOMTpg/pwmcPUrQOz PqPcejG1GaFFsieg= X-HalOne-Cookie: 6ea18e367121db6bd172cbeae1a0a69ff1d11cc0 X-HalOne-ID: adec96d6-05fc-11e6-a8e4-b8ca3afa9d73 Received: from [172.20.10.2] (unknown [94.191.186.169]) by smtpfilter1.public.one.com (Halon Mail Gateway) with ESMTPSA; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 07:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) From: Erik Cederstrand In-Reply-To: <571588BB.2070803@orthanc.ca> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 09:02:24 +0200 Cc: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Current Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9144F2D3-F039-4F65-9760-AD5B7F47D3E3@cederstrand.dk> References: <20160302235429.GD75641@FreeBSD.org> <57152CE5.5050500@FreeBSD.org> <9D4B9C8B-41D7-42BC-B436-D23EFFF60261@ixsystems.com> <20160418191425.GW1554@FreeBSD.org> <571533B8.6090109@freebsd.org> <20160418194010.GX1554@FreeBSD.org> <57153E80.4080800@FreeBSD.org> <571551AB.4070203@freebsd.org> <5715772A.3070306@freebsd.org> <571588BB.2070803@orthanc.ca> To: Lyndon Nerenberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 07:03:43 -0000 > Den 19. apr. 2016 kl. 03.24 skrev Lyndon Nerenberg = : >=20 > There aren't enough seconds in the universe to test all the viable = combinations for one single release. We don't even do that with the WITH_FOO/WITHOUT_FOO options now, so why = should that be a criteria? You can use any combination of those build = options today, sure, but if something breaks you're on your own (you're = always on your own, for that matter, since this is open source). Seriously, there arguments put forth here against packaged base are = pretty embarrassing. If you don't like packaged base, don't use it. = Build and install from SVN instead. If you're using freebsd-update = today, you essentially have 14.000 packages and a far less powerful CLI, = so why is packaged base not a step in the right direction? Erik=