From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri May 1 08:42:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01010 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Fri, 1 May 1998 08:42:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from novell.com (prv-mail20.Provo.Novell.COM [137.65.40.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA01000 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 08:42:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drdavis@xmission.com) Received: from xmission.com ([137.65.137.188]) by prv-mail20.provo.novell.com; Fri, 01 May 1998 09:42:05 -0600 Message-ID: <3549ECE1.576737DF@xmission.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 09:40:18 -0600 From: DRDavis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Malartre CC: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A GUI greyscale interface by default References: <24438.893985203@time.cdrom.com> <35492A36.5A7257B6@aei.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I agree with Jordon. In the many years I have worked with Unix this has just become another religous war to divide Unix. Rember the debate of SunView/NeWS/X windows. And then the famous quote by Steve Jobs that "X was Braindead". I have been following the threads on FreeBSD as a Workstation, now is the time for us to free our minds and move into the future. My belief is if you want to do that Java is the story (Yes, OK maybe I have been listening to Eric Schmidt to much, hell he is the CEO anyways). Why doesn't someone take FreeBSD build that damn fastest implementation of Java VM/JIT into the OS. And go Java! Rewrite the GUI in a standard mechanism through Java (MAKE IT CONSISTANT). Novell is doing this with NetWare 5! Yes, we currently just ported an X server, but the API we expose it through Java so someday we can throw it away and do something better! If you want a client workstation story Java is the key. My 2.5 cents worth. Darren Malartre wrote: > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > I have thinked to that when I look around *moused* and when I read about > > > a 1986 (I think) NeXT product: A 21" monitor greyscale with a fuly GUI > > > interface. I think it was sold more than 15 000 $! > > > > > > 10 year after that, Unix have no basic fast GUI interface... > > > Well, maybe other Unix, I dont know > > > > Argh, so DO something about it why don't you! Simply identifying the > > lack of an easy-to-setup and use GUI interface in Unix is something > > which people have been doing for years and is such an old topic that > > it isn't even interesting anymore. What would be far more interesting > > would be an actual IMPLEMENTATION of an alternative GUI mechanism > > and an explanation of how it wins over X. > > > > So let us know when you've finished your proof-of-concept > > implementation, OK? :-) > > > > Jordan > > I will close my mouth, learn C++ and work :-) > cya > Malartre > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > malartre@aei.ca ICQ #4224434 > www.aei.ca/~malartre/ FreeBSD 4 Newbies project > Windows_95-B Unix FreeBSD-2.2.6 > -------------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message