From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 14 22:29:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A004037B401 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 22:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iquest2.iquest.net (iquest2.iquest.net [206.246.180.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DF6743F93 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 22:29:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@iquest.net) Received: (qmail 28829 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 05:28:58 -0000 Received: from iquest3.iquest.net (HELO mail-1.iquest.net) (206.246.180.23) by iquest2.iquest.net with SMTP; 15 May 2003 05:28:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 4931 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 05:28:58 -0000 Received: from dsl-static-206-246-160-137.iquest.net (HELO iquest.net) (206.246.160.137) by iquest3.iquest.net with SMTP; 15 May 2003 05:28:58 -0000 Sender: toor@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3EC32599.F8C211EE@iquest.net> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 00:28:57 -0500 From: John Dyson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jgrosch@mooseriver.com References: <3EC2FB53.67559AB6@bellatlantic.net> <20030515025309.GA28371@mooseriver.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Sergey Babkin cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a public relations opportunity for BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dyson@iquest.net List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 05:29:01 -0000 Josef Grosch wrote: > > On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:28:35PM -0400, Sergey Babkin wrote: > > Hi, > > > > If you haven't heard yet, SCO has sent a letter to about 1500 > > companies claiming that Linux infringes on SCO's intellectual property. > > I won't comment on whether this claim is true (there > > are enough comments on slashdot). But for BSD it's a nice > > opportunity to come out and say to the public that BSD out there, > > does all that Linux does and more, and has no intellectual property > > issues. So that if the management of the threatened companies > > starts running from Linux, they run to BSD. > > I think we need to stay as far away from this self inflicted fiasco as > possible. If SCO wants to turn into the next Unisys, fine! They will not be > missed. We should continue to focus on making FreeBSD the server OS of > choice. > > Oh, I'm moving this chat, which is where it really belongs. > I tend to agree that 'dancing' on someone elses misfortune or 'grave' isn't a good thing. BSD (esp FreeBSD) shouldn't be an OS that is based upon hatred of Microsoft, Linux, Commercial software or GPLed software. Good, clean competition based upon features and reliability (where features do include software features, installation ease, licesning freedom (but not as a 'crusade').) It is VERY EASY to fall into the trap of disliking the rhetoric, vehemence, or business practices of a company or organization so very strongly as to mistakenly adopt the negative attributes that are so very disliked. I have too often made the mistake of disliking 'negative' and 'crusader' attitudes so strongly as to adopt some of the attributes of the 'negative advocacy' based situations. It is best to avoid considering 'Microsoft', 'commercial software' or other such things as the 'enemy.' It is also best to avoid giving those who crusade so strongly against other people and companies 'a taste of their own medicine' in any way. I still wish that FreeBSD had stronger marketing, where it would be effective enough to avoid the seduction of overly strong advocacy. John