Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:15:28 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> To: Jeremiah Gowdy <jeremiah@sherline.com> Cc: Anthony Atkielski <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>, Gilbert Gong <ggong@cal.alumni.berkeley.edu>, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft Advocacy? Message-ID: <XFMail.011220131528.jhb@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <000f01c1899a$b4c5b7f0$03e2cbd8@server>
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On 20-Dec-01 Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: >> If you think that I'm going to try to work on the >> FreeBSD kernel using Visual C++ on a Windows box >> because you think that is the best desktop >> environment for me to use, then you must be >> smoking some serious stuff. You are saying that >> the desktop software (X) that can be run on >> FreeBSD is not appropriate for ANY use by ANY person. > > My perspective, as a programmer, is that (a) there's a difference between a > desktop and a development machine and (b) you should always try to develop > on the platform you're developing for. By that reasoning, no I do not think > you should use Visual C++ to develop for FreeBSD, although I have written > portable apps in VC++ that compile nicely under FreeBSD as well. I didn't > say that X wasn't useful to some people. I said that it is my opinion that > it does not make a good desktop, and it's existance doesn't make FreeBSD a > desktop OS. If the inclusion of 3rd party desktop software makes an OS > considered a "desktop OS", then I suppose we could call HURD a desktop OS as > well, along with any bare kernel that can support X. I consider a desktop > OS to be a little more than a kernel that can execute X. I think desktop OS is misnomer. UI and OS are two separate things, regardless of how much MS ties the two together. :) And you have said that you think FreeBSD is not a viable desktop for specific circumstances. That is equivalent to it not being valid for _any_ circumstance. Saying it is valid for specific circumstances is saying that it isn't necessarily appropriate for all circumstances, but there are instances where it is, which is what I think you really think as well. Hmm, and I should s/FreeBSD/X/. FreeBSD can tweak certain things to make it desktop environment friendly, but X is really the desktop. -- John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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