From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 29 17:18:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7956016A4CE for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:18:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from VARK.MIT.EDU (VARK.MIT.EDU [18.95.3.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1567443D31 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:18:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from VARK.MIT.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VARK.MIT.EDU (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2THHroi014485; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:17:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from das@localhost) by VARK.MIT.EDU (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j2THHrxU014484; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:17:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:17:53 -0500 From: David Schultz To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20050329171753.GA14452@VARK.MIT.EDU> Mail-Followup-To: "M. Warner Losh" , maslanbsd@gmail.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <319cceca05032907411014a218@mail.gmail.com> <20050329.084817.41630990.imp@bsdimp.com> <20050329163556.GA14181@VARK.MIT.EDU> <20050329.095249.71088143.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050329.095249.71088143.imp@bsdimp.com> cc: maslanbsd@gmail.com cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: organization X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:18:02 -0000 On Tue, Mar 29, 2005, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20050329163556.GA14181@VARK.MIT.EDU> > David Schultz writes: > : On Tue, Mar 29, 2005, Warner Losh wrote: > : > From: mohamed aslan > : > Subject: Re: organization > : > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:41:25 -0800 > : > > : > > guys this is not a flame war > : > > but the linux way in arranging the source file is really better than > : > > freebsd way, it's a fact. > : > > however it's easy to rearrange it in 1 min as someone said before. > : > > but i mean this step should be done from the core team. > : > > for example all fs has to go in a subdir called fs > : > > arch specific file should go in subdir called arch/(arch name) > : > > and so on . > : > > : > The problem is getting consensus on what is to be done. Sure, one can > : > arbitrarily say this goes here or that goes there, but everyone's > : > notion of reorg is a little different. It would take a lot of time > : > and energy to get this consensus, which is better spent making things > : > work better... > : > : I think few people would disagree with certain changes, like > : putting MD bits in subdirectories called 'arch' as in NetBSD. The > : real question is whether people care enough to justify the repo > : bloat and the extra load on the cvsup mirrors. > > You've proven my point exactly: Some folks want to see i386 moved to > arch/i386, others think it is stupid to do that. Discussion isn't > possible here, so nothing will happen since there's no compelling > reason to do anything, just a weak argument about how things might be > nicer. > > The fact that we even consider cvsup load when discussing this means > that clearly it is a weak idea: if we have to worry about the impact > on how we distribute the sources for a change, isn't that really a > weird criteria to use? Indeed, both the pro and con arguments are weak, which is probably why nothing has happened. I for one would love to see libm called libm and not msun, for instance, but when it comes down to it, I have better things to do.