From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 3 14:27:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7844A771 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 14:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com (mail-la0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0FB829A for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 14:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id c6so1407937lan.31 for ; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=bmwLjq3I8GlfEdxgS5zxrmO8j47V7+XiqIgJXbjbJIY=; b=kIpa+ck5b6I6WoMWSKnOZqag1aIsxwvq2b3z5G2PKGfSnyiIWdgshB39qr/A00cekS COQhdQ+6J8HCQyFGJx6lafj66KtFZu91pk6ps+tENISYGrExOtpfxFoTKgZtSDTSndYp 4XF8M25KtJ1N80Q26znqPTn9zX21hxvK8GK7fAdRr1Howdse23deRdkNvBUOaxvZPXVb sNJA+XwRolQn+ykHIjM/0KTWXjRw5Ed6vdc07exr577dxnrGWE0cn4/BMt7EHoSEhzne xlbCDz/kZ4cg9714AyE4ao/buXebF5FDwhmi1rXqwny/pFNzIWQDSdbsT6nZdlwdYzf9 XmNQ== X-Received: by 10.112.165.40 with SMTP id yv8mr88332lbb.83.1396535256907; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 07:27:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: royce.williams@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.1.33 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 07:27:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <13492F6B-C667-4569-87D2-3F808AE7356D@gmail.com> From: Royce Williams Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 06:27:16 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: V3SKLUPzTuFJ9T4ZOv4Cite8Sb8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Web browsing usage from base To: FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:27:39 -0000 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 2 Apr 2014, Eitan Adler wrote: > > On 2 April 2014 09:02, Brian Kim wrote: >> >>> Would anyone like to share their best approach to browsing the web only >>> using utilities from a base install? >>> >> >> $pkg install firefox >> $firefox >> >> seems to work (provided X is running). >> > > fetch(1) was already mentioned. telnet(1) or nc(1) would allow > interactive use, admittedly not conveniently (level: neckbeard). I can > imagine a (terrible) text browser hacked together with fetch, sh, dialog, > and grep/sed/awk to parse out links. But even full text browsers like > lynx, links, and w3m are often useless due to the modern web's dependence > on images, Javascript, and such. > > Incidentally, the issue of the base OS not having a text web browser has > come up several times lately. I don't know if there's one suitable for > import, but it's something to consider. Writing one using only the tools > from base would be an interesting/horrifying experiment. > It would also be useful to hear more about the use cases that are causing this spike in interest. Royce