From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Oct 4 16:23:44 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4BA10B1B1F; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:23:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (spindle.one-eyed-alien.net [199.48.129.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A268778EC; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:23:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (Postfix, from userid 3001) id 6DAD03C475F; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:23:43 +0000 From: Brooks Davis To: Kevin Day Cc: Warner Losh , FreeBSD Net , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , luciano@vespaperitivo.it Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers Message-ID: <20181004162343.GF74146@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <45c44128-85cb-5b4c-3af3-cbdf1560c9be@grosbein.net> <42Qt573dbmz1ftWT@baobab.bilink.it> <43356262-A30B-4B4E-AB81-DE79DB985806@your.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Y1L3PTX8QE8cb2T+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43356262-A30B-4B4E-AB81-DE79DB985806@your.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:23:44 -0000 --Y1L3PTX8QE8cb2T+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 11:21:03AM -0500, Kevin Day wrote: >=20 >=20 > > On Oct 4, 2018, at 7:58 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > >=20 > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:53 AM Luciano Mannucci > > wrote: > >=20 > >>> While I have no objection for general direction, I have doubts about > >> removal > >>> of ste(4) and especially rl(4). These are cheap 100Mbit VERY popular = NICs > >>> sold in enourmous values in certain markets by vendors like D-Link and > >>> TP-Link using various trade names. > >>=20 > >=20 > > Enough people are using rl that it's off the list by my count. >=20 > If you need any extra data, rl is the only one that I'd be sad to lose as= well. We have a lot of embedded devices that are still shipping today with= rl chips. I could chip in a little to sponsor someone to modernize the dri= ver if needed. It's definitly on the STAY list at this point. If you could help get it update that would be great, especially if it's still shipping (a very useful datapoint). -- Brooks --Y1L3PTX8QE8cb2T+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJbtj6OAAoJEKzQXbSebgfAHNwH/Ro7yBo3G2I9lVw1y1fGEDED rS9XTO/HDOfWkfeYvcez952oBeh6YOsXRgWAxsA7UcO43fYrRtE6R/Hb7XPUoxWa /r5gvhrWWfsmwg/eJCE+wSS8NjCdxWGa2aebZYjQct6tzHjsokuH+m9yvbfx6qD1 ecIhtMITo8Zo+5G5bybcH2JzxM1aJVATq0zVO2Ezy+MkqYg49cCbCqMsAHKFE04L 66ri3K38pMHpZxH74ucW5r4dyVSba5XDr76qKIMxBlqlfJG3OjtWQOfWVv54zXzo SdUeKYnvK7CNxv8MTP99TAk+tQ399mRfKVW5AifmHoEBld572bZzgxwlxyksvjY= =/BDY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Y1L3PTX8QE8cb2T+--