From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 11:04:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1EA37B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.nectar.cc (gw.nectar.cc [208.42.49.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9439743F75 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:04:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@celabo.org) Received: from madman.celabo.org (madman.celabo.org [10.0.1.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client CN "madman.celabo.org", Issuer "celabo.org CA" (verified OK)) by gw.nectar.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261DF66 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:04:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: by madman.celabo.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B48AB78C66; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:04:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 13:04:20 -0500 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: David O'Brien Message-ID: <20030506180420.GF79167@madman.celabo.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , David O'Brien References: <20030505110601.H53365@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20030505175426.GA19352@madman.celabo.org> <20030506093754.B838@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20030506092519.GA3158@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> <20030506112711.K838@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20030506153641.GI77708@madman.celabo.org> <20030506175400.F631@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20030506161732.GB78486@madman.celabo.org> <20030506165319.GC36798@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030506165319.GC36798@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Url: http://www.celabo.org/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i-ja.1 Subject: Re: Re: `Hiding' libc symbols X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 18:04:20 -0000 On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 09:53:19AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:17:33AM -0500, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote: > > Actually, even if we had consensus to go this route, I'm not sure that > > one would want to do it en masse? > > You're not going to get consensus. This thread should just DIE, and be > taken to the TRB/Core if you want it continued. I think there has been at least a little support for the proposal, although certainly not consensus among those who have been vocal. I'm just trying to determine what exactly is distasteful to the vocal minority and to unearth any alternative approaches that might satisfy more of the community. You haven't raised any concrete issues other than ``I don't like it'', so it would be hard to imagine why one would bring it to the TRB. To try to get you to contribute something (since you seem to want to participate constructively), do your objections include objection to the special treatement given to `non-standard' symbols such as err, warn? Why or why not? I'm also pretty sure that one doesn't need TRB/core approval to continue a on-topic, technical thread in this forum. But hey, I could be wrong. Cheers, -- Jacques Vidrine . NTT/Verio SME . FreeBSD UNIX . Heimdal nectar@celabo.org . jvidrine@verio.net . nectar@freebsd.org . nectar@kth.se