From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 19:13:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4571065674 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F69A8FC1E for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from vampire.homelinux.org (dslb-088-067-236-069.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.67.236.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML25U-1L2sUs0KPq-0003U6; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:13:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 82712 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2008 19:13:53 -0000 Received: from fbsd8.laiers.local (192.168.4.151) by laiers.local with SMTP; 19 Nov 2008 19:13:53 -0000 From: Max Laier Organization: FreeBSD To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:13:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.1.1; i386; ; ) References: <49233959.9040903@ironport.com> <4923D7C0.7050301@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4923D7C0.7050301@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811192013.53405.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18peJRdiyf5gGEB3B5wIVeXbxaBzcpMegBkc38 Nc6LUQoaLAtlS50VyTRnYnuwM1I8QKw3Z7OiQtJ2+xcTaYHcLg w0JuUnd5eAAcY4lgbVhpA== Cc: Julian Elischer , Andre Oppermann Subject: Re: tokenring users? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:13:55 -0000 On Wednesday 19 November 2008 10:09:20 Andre Oppermann wrote: > Julian Elischer wrote: > > One of the things that are making things hard for network testing is the > > question > > "what to do about tokenring support?" > > > > We seem to have a dearth of tokenring users so we are completely unable > > test how changes affect tokenring. > > > > If anyone here knows anyone whoul could: > > 1/ help support tokenring > > 2/ help test tokenring, > > > > could they get in touch? > > I guess Token Ring is as dead as it gets. The last I time ran across > someone using it was in 1996 or 1997. I asked our engineers here (on > a customer base of about 1k SME) and got only blank stares. =46rom the experience of replacing ~200 IBM token-ring terminals with ether= net=20 PCs & terminal emulators in a hospital back in 2001 ... yeah, it's dead. B= ack=20 then the rational was that it was already cheaper to buy a PC, ethernet car= d=20 and do the wiring than it was to get a replacement for a broken token ring= =20 card - let alone the hub that decided to die in the midst of the end-of-yea= r=20 tax report season. While TR was nice back in the days of 10Mbit ethernet hub days, there is no= =20 longer a market for it, except for the aforementioned IBM terminal - where= =20 =46reeBSD really doesn't play. =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News