From owner-freebsd-current Mon Aug 5 22:19:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B568037B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 22:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opiate.thirteenandtwo.org (CPE0030ab0ef2bb.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.103.202.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B66D43E77 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 22:19:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mchopra@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) Received: from dhcppc1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcppc1 (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g48MY8jA043660 for ; Wed, 8 May 2002 18:34:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mchopra@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) Received: (from munish@localhost) by dhcppc1 (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g48MY7YS043659 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 8 May 2002 18:34:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dhcppc1: munish set sender to mchopra@engmail.uwaterloo.ca using -f Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 18:34:07 -0400 From: Munish Chopra To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Base software [was: The future of perl on FreeBSD] Message-ID: <20020508183407.K292@dhcppc1.mtwh.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020508075543.A5E5838CC@overcee.wemm.org> <20020508185516.GB53102@beaujolais.extremis.net> <20020508194258.GA27220@leviathan.inethouston.net> <20020508210030.GA53266@chocobo.cx> <20020508145249.C72921@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020508221524.GA60844@chocobo.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020508221524.GA60844@chocobo.cx>; from chip@chocobo.cx on Wed, May 08, 2002 at 06:15:24PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 08, 2002 at 06:15:24PM -0400, Chip Marshall wrote: > > From my brief Linux experience, it seems some distros put a lot of > junk in that most people don't need. > Yeah. The only one's that I know of that keep things somewhat in check are Slackware and Debian. > NetBSD on the other hand, put nearly nothing in the base system. > > What should FreeBSD really be doing? I see perl as being a nice thing > to have, but not everyone needs it, and it is a pain to maintain > (apparently), and it is big. Should other big pieces of software that > are currently in the base system be removed and put into an optional > package arrangement? > I'm a big fan of 'kick it out'. If you need it, install the package. Concerning the MTA stuff you asked about earlier, I've been told several times (though I wonder whether anyone has actively pursued this plan) that someone was working on making the MTA selectable at install time. So, you should (the time frame was set for 5.0-RELEASE I believe) soon be able to select between sendmail, postfix, and qmail (if not others) at install time. I personally like this option and hope someone is going ahead with it. -- Munish Chopra The FreeBSD NVIDIA Driver Initiative http://nvidia.netexplorer.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message