From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Jan 22 02:13:17 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C088CBCDEF for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 02:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6879F18F8 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 02:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 64E82CBCDEE; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 02:13:17 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648B1CBCDED for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 02:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [91.220.196.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2798A18F7 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 02:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from [10.9.9.241] (helo=rmm6prod02.runbox.com) by bars.runbox.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cV7L1-0008Kw-5N; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 02:52:59 +0100 Received: from mail by rmm6prod02.runbox.com with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1cV7L1-0001Cr-3p; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 02:52:59 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [Authenticated user (846156)] by runbox.com with http (RMM6); Sun, 22 Jan 2017 01:52:59 GMT From: "Jeffrey Bouquet" Reply-To: jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com To: "Benjamin Kaduk" CC: "current" Subject: Re: ISO image: where is the CLANG compiler? Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:52:59 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: RMM6 In-Reply-To: <20170121224756.GT8460@kduck.kaduk.org> Message-Id: X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 02:13:17 -0000 On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:47:56 -0600, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 07:38:30PM +0000, Glen Barber wrote: > >=20 > > Random thought: > >=20 > > Brought up out-of-band, can you try this from a memstick.img and your > > already-built userland/kernel to do what you had originally tried to > > install the system? > >=20 > > # make -C /usr/src WITHOUT_SYSTEM_COMPILER=3D1 DESTDIR=3D/wherever ins= tallworld > >=20 > > I think this is why cc(1)/clang(1) is not being used from /usr/obj, and > > you don't have a compiler to compile the compiler. >=20 > Sorry for jumping in late, and thanks for bringing this up -- I was surpr= ised > that we had gone so long without someone making the claim that a compiler > should not be necessary for installworld/installkernel (as was my underst= anding). > If indeed a compiler is necessary for those (perhaps only under certain > circumstances such as those experienced by Oliver) it would be good to un= derstand > why. >=20 > -Ben > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" That may be a reason to develop the not-specific (sorry...) idea that insta= llworld should install to a small duplicate of where it Does, and complete, befor= e the Actual installworld so that if the latter cannot complete, a small rescue shell wi= th rsync embedded or an equivalent can copy the bare-minimum set of files over the=20 mixture of new and old... which I have had to several times do more or less piecemeal, and more often than not sufficed to bring the system back whole.= =20=