From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Sep 17 12:48:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BDA9CF653 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67BA12D2 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B63DF9CF652; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:48:27 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DE99CF651 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BDCC12D1; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.84 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ZcYbo-000Ekj-Du; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:48:16 +0300 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:48:16 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: David Chisnall Cc: "Lundberg, Johannes" , Andreas Nilsson , Anders Bolt-Evensen , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel Haswell support - Any updates? Message-ID: <20150917124816.GT3158@zxy.spb.ru> References: <55FA7324.5010603@icloud.com> <09A515F2-44BA-4DF0-9792-D4C56EEB9D7C@FreeBSD.org> <114F22EF-61E3-4D75-84FB-9D6E3FBCB8F3@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <114F22EF-61E3-4D75-84FB-9D6E3FBCB8F3@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:48:27 -0000 On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:43:59PM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: > On 17 Sep 2015, at 11:31, Lundberg, Johannes wrote: > > > > Anyway, I wish the foundation would support the graphics team by sponsoring this development... > > The Foundation did fund a lot of this work, and likely will again. > The problem is not willingness of the Foundation to fund it, nor > availability of funds. As with WiFi, it's availability of people > who have both the competence and interest to do the work and the > availability to work as consultants for the Foundation. > > Long term, the real solution is to convince GPU vendors to put as > much effort into funding FreeBSD driver development as they do into > funding Linux and Windows driver development. The Foundation has > been reaching out in this direction, but it's far more compelling if > people can document cases where lack of FreeBSD support has cost a > vendor sales. If you've bought a system with an nVidia or AMD GPU > (or, ideally, if your company has bought a few thousand) because of > lack of FreeBSD support from Intel, then let Intel know. Impotant: if you already buy Intel system -- Intel will be ignored you, only future sales important.