From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 12 14:14:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA4616A412 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:14:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imb@protected-networks.net) Received: from aaron.protected-networks.net (aaron.protected-networks.net [202.12.127.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F95443D62 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:14:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imb@protected-networks.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aaron.protected-networks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E063BC272; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aaron.protected-networks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aaron.protected-networks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973EAC56B; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Authentication-Results: aaron.protected-networks.net from=imb@protected-networks.net; domainkey=pass Received: from aaron.protected-networks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aaron.protected-networks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E5BC4F6; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:06:43 -0400 (EDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=200509; d=protected-networks.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:OpenPGP:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OttSvyj00s2yUWj3mTmBBFzemjcpW2LpGexIFm2ghCMccHhi6U3egL39jFSysYVsPuB6nQklSxJ8uYZFNIV+Gc/3/fbBxGHvA8Q2KnGkJkm0H5Roy5e/LZxDoN/FcF8l; Received: from [192.168.1.10] (socker.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.218.145.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Iain Michael Butler", Issuer "Protected Networks Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: imb@protected-networks.net) by aaron.protected-networks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E51C272; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:06:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4506BEF2.6050706@protected-networks.net> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:06:42 -0400 From: Michael Butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060729) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vivek Khera References: <20060909173813.GA1388@FS.denninger.net> <45065C67.6040503@cs.tu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=0442D492 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: ARRRRGH! Guys, who's breaking -STABLE's GMIRROR code?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:14:50 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Vivek Khera wrote: | If you want reliability, then you need to do your own testing on your | own hardware on your own application prior to replacing your working | version with the new one. Never rely on anyone else saying "Yeah, it | will work". It will come back and bite you where you don't want to be bit. | | The other side of this is "don't replace what works" and just leave | things as they are. I must say that this one critical point is what made me choose FreeBSD over Linux way back in ~1992. It is possible, indeed almost mandatory in a commercial setting, to build a local repository containing the OS and *everything* required to build it. Good change management is not about tracking the latest and greatest, it's about being able to make sensible decisions about which changes to implement, when and, most of all, knowing why. Security isn't just about firewalls, it's about business continuity too, Michael -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFBr7xQv9rrgRC1JIRAnboAJ4vHl7UAF149CavttzqVwD/r8aIlgCggmY8 JyW4le67COyphcFoUUbZ7ng= =0rDL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----