Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:24:16 +0100 (CET) From: linimon@FreeBSD.org To: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD ports which are currently scheduled for deletion Message-ID: <20081204052416.CAFD41CD2E@mail.droso.net>
next in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
As part of an ongoing effort to reduce the number of problems in the FreeBSD ports system, we periodically schedule removal of ports that have been judged to have outlived their usefulness. Often, this is due to a better alternative having become available and/or the cessation of development on the existing port. In some cases, ports are marked for removal because they fail to build and install correctly from their sources, or otherwise fail in operation. The ports, and the reason and date that they have been scheduled for removal, are listed below. If no one has stepped forward before that time to propose a way to fix the problems (such as via a PR), the ports will be deleted. portname: audio/q-audio description: Q-Audio -- digital audio interface for the Q language maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: depends on deprecated port lang/q expiration date: 2008-12-24 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=audio&portname=q-audio portname: audio/ruby-xmms2-ecore description: Ruby ecore mainloop bindings for XMMS2 maintainer: alexbl@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=audio&portname=ruby-xmms2-ecore portname: audio/shellac description: Shellac is a PyGTK XMMS2 Client maintainer: alexbl@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=audio&portname=shellac portname: audio/snett description: A simple XMMS2 client inspired by strange-quark maintainer: alexbl@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=audio&portname=snett portname: databases/firebird-client description: The open-source InterBase(tm) 6.0 spin-off (client) maintainer: skv@FreeBSD.org status: IGNORE deprecated because: no longer under development, please consider using Firebird2 expiration date: 2009-02-24 build errors: http://pointyhat.FreeBSD.org/errorlogs/amd64-errorlogs/e.6.20081202081507/firebird-client-1.5.5.log (Tue Dec 2 09:49:26 UTC 2008) overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=databases&portname=firebird-client portname: databases/firebird-server description: The open-source InterBase(tm) 6.0 spin-off (Classic version) maintainer: skv@FreeBSD.org status: IGNORE deprecated because: no longer under development, please consider using Firebird2 expiration date: 2009-02-24 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=databases&portname=firebird-server portname: databases/mysql-query-browser description: A database querying tool for MySQL servers maintainer: pgollucci@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: has been BROKEN for more than six months expiration date: 2008-11-04 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=databases&portname=mysql-query-browser portname: databases/p5-DBD-PgSPI description: Provides access to PostgreSQL db through DBI within pl/perl functions maintainer: mat@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=databases&portname=p5-DBD-PgSPI portname: databases/py-tada description: Twisted Asynchronous Database API maintainer: clive@darkarts.co.za status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=databases&portname=py-tada portname: databases/qdbm-java description: Java API for QDBM maintainer: ahze@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=databases&portname=qdbm-java portname: devel/hs-buddha description: A declarative debugger for Haskell 98 maintainer: haskell@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=devel&portname=hs-buddha portname: devel/hs-tclhaskell-ghc description: Tcl/Tk binding for Haskell maintainer: haskell@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=devel&portname=hs-tclhaskell-ghc portname: devel/p5-Getopt-Mixed description: Perl module for processing of both short and long command line options maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: Use devel/p5-Getopt-Long instead expiration date: 2007-04-23 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=devel&portname=p5-Getopt-Mixed portname: devel/pear-apd description: A full-featured engine-level PHP profiler/debugger maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=devel&portname=pear-apd portname: dns/bind9-dlz description: The Berkeley Internet Name Daemon, with DLZ extensions maintainer: dinoex@FreeBSD.org status: FORBIDDEN deprecated because: expiration date: 2008-08-31 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=dns&portname=bind9-dlz portname: editors/sam description: A unix version of Rob Pike's editor for plan9 maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: distfile and homepage disappeared expiration date: 2007-01-04 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=editors&portname=sam portname: games/clanbomber description: A bomberman-like multiplayer game maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=games&portname=clanbomber portname: games/linux-alienarena description: Alien Arena 2006 (Linux version) maintainer: alepulver@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=games&portname=linux-alienarena portname: graphics/crystalspace-devel description: Free and portable 3D Game Development Kit maintainer: acm@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=graphics&portname=crystalspace-devel portname: graphics/gstreamer-plugins-swfdec description: Gstreamer flash redering plugin maintainer: multimedia@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=graphics&portname=gstreamer-plugins-swfdec portname: graphics/q-graph description: Q-Graph -- graph library and editor for the Q language maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: depends on deprecated port lang/q expiration date: 2008-12-24 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=graphics&portname=q-graph portname: irc/erc description: ERC is an Emacs InternetRelayChat client maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=irc&portname=erc portname: japanese/escpf description: Text filters for ESC/P, ESC/Page and ESC/PS printers maintainer: mita@jp.FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/i386-errorlogs/e.6.20081122122931/ja-escpf-0.4.log (Sat Jul 12 14:19:24 UTC 2008) overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=japanese&portname=escpf portname: java/java-gcj-compat description: A collection of wrapper scripts, symlinks and jar files for GCJ maintainer: maho@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=java&portname=java-gcj-compat portname: lang/chameleon description: A Haskell-style language maintainer: haskell@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=lang&portname=chameleon portname: lang/hope description: Hope is lazy interpriter for HOPE applicative language maintainer: lev@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/i386-errorlogs/e.6.20081111095232/hope-1.1.log (Sat Jul 12 14:22:59 UTC 2008) overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=lang&portname=hope portname: lang/pm3-base description: Compiler and base libs of Polytechnique Montreal Modula-3 distribution maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/i386-errorlogs/e.6.20081122122931/pm3-base-1.1.15_2.log (Sat Jul 12 14:34:59 UTC 2008) overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=lang&portname=pm3-base portname: lang/q description: Q -- equational programming language maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: old version, broken plist expiration date: 2008-12-24 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=lang&portname=q portname: lang/screamer description: Extension of Common Lisp for nondeterministic programming maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/i386-errorlogs/e.6.20081111095232/screamer-3.20.log (Sat Jul 12 14:19:50 UTC 2008) overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=lang&portname=screamer portname: math/ses description: Simple Emacs Spreadsheet maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=math&portname=ses portname: misc/documancer description: A programmer's documentation reader maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: Unmaintained upstream expiration date: 2008-10-01 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=misc&portname=documancer portname: misc/heyu description: Control a CM11A interface from the command line maintainer: mstowe@chicago.us.mensa.org deprecated because: no longer under development, use misc/heyu2 expiration date: 2008-12-06 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=misc&portname=heyu portname: misc/ipbt description: A high-tech ttyrec player with improvements over ttyplay maintainer: matt_mills@btopenworld.com status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/i386-errorlogs/e.6.20081111095232/ipbt-r7471.log (Sat Jul 12 14:17:24 UTC 2008) overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=misc&portname=ipbt portname: multimedia/manslide description: Utility to simply create your own slideshow maintainer: trebestie@gmail.com deprecated because: Use multimedia/smile instead expiration date: 2008-10-13 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=multimedia&portname=manslide portname: multimedia/mythtv description: MythTV is a homebrew PVR project maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=multimedia&portname=mythtv portname: net-im/ginsu description: A client for the gale secure instant messaging system maintainer: jason-fbsd-ports-ginsu@shalott.net status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=net-im&portname=ginsu portname: net-p2p/py-kenosis-bittorrent description: A Kenosis enabled, distributed BitTorrent maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=net-p2p&portname=py-kenosis-bittorrent portname: net/acx100 description: Texas Instruments (TI) ACX100 IEEE 802.11 driver maintainer: leoz.2005@gmail.com status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=net&portname=acx100 portname: net/globus4 description: Grid computing toolkit maintainer: brooks@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=net&portname=globus4 portname: net/p5-Parallel-MPI description: Perl interface to the MPI message passing system maintainer: skv@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=net&portname=p5-Parallel-MPI portname: net/p54u description: Driver for USB wireless devices with Conexant (Prism 54) chipsets maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: website disappeared expiration date: 2008-01-28 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=net&portname=p54u portname: news/sabnzbd description: A web-interface based binary newsgrabber in python, with nzb support maintainer: daniel@netwalk.org deprecated because: no longer developed, use news/sabnzbdplus instead expiration date: 2008-12-21 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=news&portname=sabnzbd portname: palm/synce-gnomevfs description: Gnome VFS module for WinCE devices maintainer: ports@logvinov.com status: BROKEN deprecated because: No longer supported by developers expiration date: 2008-08-24 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=palm&portname=synce-gnomevfs portname: palm/synce-kde description: SynCE KDE Utilities maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: No longer supported by developers expiration date: 2008-08-24 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=palm&portname=synce-kde portname: palm/synce-multisync description: SynCE synchronisation plugin for Multisync maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: No longer supported by developers expiration date: 2008-08-24 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=palm&portname=synce-multisync portname: security/openssl-stable description: SSL and crypto library maintainer: dinoex@FreeBSD.org status: IGNORE deprecated because: expiration date: 2008-11-01 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=security&portname=openssl-stable portname: security/xyssl description: A liteweight SSL and TLS toolkit for C developers maintainer: mattdharris@users.sourceforge.net deprecated because: Download sites are down, cannot update due to software website being down. expiration date: 2008-12-01 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=security&portname=xyssl portname: shells/ksh93-devel description: Official AT&T Beta release of KornShell 93 maintainer: joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us deprecated because: This port is Outdated. Please use shells/ksh93 expiration date: 2008-12-06 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=shells&portname=ksh93-devel portname: sysutils/dtc-toaster description: A hosting web GUI for admin and accounting all hosting services maintainer: thomas@goirand.fr status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=sysutils&portname=dtc-toaster portname: sysutils/dusage description: Report about disk space in use, change since last run, etc maintainer: CPE1704TKS@bellsouth.net status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/i386-errorlogs/e.6.20081111095232/dusage-19900227.log overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=sysutils&portname=dusage portname: sysutils/sjog description: Userland daemon for Sony Vaio Jog Dial maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=sysutils&portname=sjog portname: textproc/Ebnf2ps description: Generate EPS/FIG diagrams from EBNF/yacc/bison grammars maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=textproc&portname=Ebnf2ps portname: textproc/p5-Text-CSV_PP description: Comma-separated values manipulation routines PP version maintainer: perl@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: textproc/Text-CSV_PP was merged into textproc/p5-Text-CSV expiration date: 2008-12-11 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=textproc&portname=p5-Text-CSV_PP portname: textproc/py-wbxml description: Python bindings for the wbxml2 library maintainer: ports@logvinov.com deprecated because: No longer supported by developers expiration date: 2009-01-24 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=textproc&portname=py-wbxml portname: www/roxen description: The Roxen WebServer 2.1 maintainer: k@123.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/i386-errorlogs/e.6.20081122122931/roxen-2.1.231.log (Sat Jul 12 14:16:16 UTC 2008) overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=www&portname=roxen portname: www/squid26 description: HTTP Caching Proxy maintainer: tmseck@web.de deprecated because: The 2.6 series is no longer actively maintained by the Squid developers expiration date: 2009-03-31 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=www&portname=squid26 portname: www/zope-btreefolder2 description: Zope product that can store many items maintainer: kaeru@inigo-tech.com deprecated because: Included in Zope 2.8 and later expiration date: 2007-08-31 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=www&portname=zope-btreefolder2 portname: x11-fm/evidence description: Enlightened file-manager maintainer: freebsd@troback.com status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11-fm&portname=evidence portname: x11-toolkits/fox10 description: Fast and extensive C++ GUI toolkit maintainer: araujo@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: does not compile with latest gcc; use x11-toolkits/fox16 instead expiration date: 2009-01-28 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11-toolkits&portname=fox10 portname: x11-toolkits/fxscintilla-fox10 description: A Fox toolkit reimplementation of Scintilla editing widget maintainer: araujo@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11-toolkits&portname=fxscintilla-fox10 portname: x11-toolkits/p5-Gnome description: The main Gnome module of Gtk-Perl maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11-toolkits&portname=p5-Gnome portname: x11-toolkits/p5-qt description: A set of Perl bindings for the Qt toolkit maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11-toolkits&portname=p5-qt portname: x11-toolkits/py-fox description: Python interface to FOX Graphics library maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: depends on deprecated port x11-toolkits/fox10 expiration date: 2009-01-28 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11-toolkits&portname=py-fox portname: x11-toolkits/ruby-fox10 description: Ruby extension module to use FOX, aka FXRuby maintainer: araujo@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: depends on deprecated port x11-toolkits/fox10 expiration date: 2009-01-28 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11-toolkits&portname=ruby-fox10 portname: x11-toolkits/scx description: A GUI library for scsh and Scheme 48 maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: Version branch long since retired expiration date: 2007-10-28 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11-toolkits&portname=scx portname: x11-toolkits/xclasses description: C++ layout library for X maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: Version branch long since retired expiration date: 2007-10-28 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11-toolkits&portname=xclasses portname: x11-toolkits/xg description: Windows(tm) controls - like widget set for Motif(tm) maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: Project is dead, last release from 1998 expiration date: 2007-10-28 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11-toolkits&portname=xg portname: x11-wm/alloywm description: Has title bars, shading, resizing, automatic placement, window list maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Has been broken for more than 6 months expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/i386-errorlogs/e.6.20081122122931/alloywm-0.4.0_4.log (Sat Jul 12 14:19:21 UTC 2008) overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11-wm&portname=alloywm portname: x11-wm/flwm description: The Fast Light Window Manager maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org deprecated because: Project is dead, and uses obsolete version of fltk expiration date: 2008-10-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11-wm&portname=flwm portname: x11-wm/kahakai description: Kahakai window manager maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: Development ceased expiration date: 2008-09-19 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11-wm&portname=kahakai portname: x11/9term description: An X11 program which emulates a plan9 window maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: depends on expired port expiration date: 2008-07-18 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=x11&portname=9term
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20081204052416.CAFD41CD2E>