From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 27 6:36:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ra.upan.org (ra.upan.org [204.107.76.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8483A37B424 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 06:36:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Received: from ocsinternet.com (thoth.upan.org [204.107.76.16]) by ra.upan.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3RDYbZ70623; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:34:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Message-ID: <3AE977C5.33754CE7@ocsinternet.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:44:37 -0400 From: Mikel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Phillips Cc: dotslash , Matthew Emmerton , Matt Barton , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD w 3C905 cannot connect to Cisco 3524XL switch References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Chris, Thanks for this info. Just curious if you've used the ipsec option of the card and how well it works with fBSD.... Thanks, Mikel Chris Phillips wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, dotslash wrote: > > > > > On 4/24/01 10:28 PM, "Chris Phillips" wrote: > > > > > > > > > I would have to agree with Matthew. I have about 80 boxes sitting > > > behind a > > > > > 3524XL-EN all using Intel cards and have never had a problem. I avoid > > > most > > > > > other cards, but 3COM cards I avoid like the plague. > > > > > > > > What are your reasons for avoiding 3Com cards? I'm just curious to > > know. > > > > > > > > In my past experience, 3Com cards seem to be very common, in both > > servers > > > > and workstations. > > > > > > Yes, but common != { reliable, co-operative }. > > > > > > > i'm wondering what's the reason why. i've used 3com nics for the past 10 > > years and my experience with them are reliable. for my *nix boxes here i've > > been using the vortex nics and they work fine. > > > > i think the real problem here (in this thread) is your cisco router. the > > default config of the ports for cisco are the cause of our problems so we > > have to reconfigure them (don't have the details right now). > > I've had experiences with certain 3COM revisions not being able to talk to > each other or a 3COM switch. From memory (this was a couple years > ago) the 905b wouldn't talk to the 905a or 905c but would talk to each > other fine. Inconsistancies are not good and make an unsuspecting > contractor look bad, especially when they are billing by the hour and take > an additional four hours to diagnose the problem, get new cards and > everything working. During that incident I replaced the 3COMs with the > much cheaper D-Link cards and to this day those boxes are still using them > while I donated the 3COM cards to an local UNIX users group. Poor them. > > The Intel 10/100 cards are pound for pound the best product in their > class. They are only about $35 now. You can pick up the IPsec cards for > about $5 more. I've never had a problem with any of them. > > It should be noted as well, that the Intel cards are even a couple bucks > cheaper than the 3COM cards, at least where I am anyway. I would buy > Intel cards even if they were $40 more expensive. > > If you are looking to save a few dollars, check out this URL. > > http://www.intel.com//network/offers/testdrive_adapter.htm > > Great prices. > > -Chris Phillips > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message