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To: Emmanuel Vadot Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , re@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49hSGj5k4fz47v8 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ueO8uTJd; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of claydanielsjr@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::134 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=claydanielsjr@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.91 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.904]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.03)[-1.028]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::134:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.982]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 00:17:03 -0000 On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 2:48 PM Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > Hello all, > > I've just hit again something that I've hit (and probably others too) > often. > If a change in base break some ports and it's snapshoted in the txz > available at download.freebsd.org, you need to wait a week for the next > tarball to be available. > Since poudriere uses the tarball when you setup a jail it means that > the only solution you have is to recreate your jail by building it, and > since building world nowdays is very expensive that delay your work too > much. > Would it be possible to generate the tarballs every day instead of > every week ? At least for tier-1 arches. > > Cheers, > > -- > Emmanuel Vadot > _______________________________________________ > At first I thought you were referring to the weekly snapshots packaged as install images: https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/13.0/ But I think you are talking about the snapshots of each part, like base, kernel, ports. src, etc to use as a roll your own install like: https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/arm64/13.0-CURRENT/ >From my selfish perspective as a weekly installer of the regular Thursday image or iso of 13.0 Current, I would hate to lose the pre-rolled installer, and I think there are probably others like me. As long as you keep the weekly install snapshots, it will not affect folks like me. I must say that what you want to do is how NetBSD does their daily current snapshots, and they do not even offer pre-rolled install images. But you are a real developer and I'm just a retired guy playing with his hobby, so go ahead and do what you think is best for you. Clay