From owner-freebsd-security Thu Dec 14 15:42: 1 2000 From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 15:41:58 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from inetarena.com (ns1.inetarena.com [206.129.216.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE7737B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:41:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sparky@localhost) by inetarena.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA32577; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:41:32 -0800 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:41:32 -0800 (PST) From: To: Mikhail Kruk Cc: Tim McCullagh , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OT Spamming on this list of late In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Mikhail Kruk wrote: > it'd be darn awesome if some judge would make precident of making someone > pay after such warning. > of course this will never happen. Incidents like this have been handled successfully with this sort of plan and Judges have found for the plaintifs is these cases. Mainly the cases have to do with phone and junk snail mail. Here is what needs to happen to have a chance at success. If the spamming company is in the U.S. you would need to send a Certified Letter to that company explaining the details of the deal. The Certified Letter, since it must be signed for is your proof that the mail has been delivered. Then the letter must state why the charge is being made. In this case I would explain that this is a professional, non-profit email list, and that they are more than welcome to spam to it, if they are a sponcer. Then, make the terms of acceptance of being a sponcer the act of sending spam to the list. This notice will also need to be in the sign-up procedure for gaining access to the list. Basicly, you are setting up a sponcership from a for profit company to a non-profit organization. I would, and I just bet you a dollar there is one lawyer on this list, find a lawyer to write this up. ===================================================== Back in Santa School they taught me everything. Don't go HO HO HO it scares the little children. Don't promise anything and don't flirt with the moms. Remove the costume before you hit the bar. No, it don't feel like Christmas. local $_ = "0A72656B636148206C72655020726568746F6E41207473754A"; while(s/..$//) { print chr(hex($&)) } ===================================================== > On the other hand if you make the amount more reasonable (like $50 or > whatever you are getting paid at your job) you probably can take this to a > court and win... > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > NOTICE: By sending unsolicited commercial advertising/solicitations > > (or otherwise on or as part of a mailing list) to the above e-mail > > address you will be indicating your consent to paying Danick Systems > > a Limited Liability Corporation and controller of this domain > > $10,000.oo U.S.D./hour for a minimum of 1 hour for my time spent > > dealing with it. Payment due in 30 days upon receipt of an invoice > > (e-mail or regular mail) from me or my authorized representative. > > <<<<<<<<<<< > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message