From nobody Sun Jan 22 06:52:07 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4P03nf3nkPz2v58l for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 06:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x129.google.com (mail-lf1-x129.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4P03nf1ylXz4K42; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 06:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-lf1-x129.google.com with SMTP id j17so13829676lfr.3; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 22:52:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=kdcJWQuEtQp2lMng+wGYqMrj7xp1in2Yi/n6KVRT034=; b=UwdMpk/FkpaNqahjXrpeinuy+F8zMmpG2iIIcL+vCRZiPSvqUZA3P5lqCGBt/8Xxgr FdFAx2sAlQn3bkl+Csr9hHcxHSEoADSkPW9c/QlNV29Cm1bmuDXddJPkk2nhYKTj+AFL du2f9BuNLAtQfzOP1JE1RJfBWS5OvkWl8QQBkSMpPeDw4mS/M/wAhDcYkmnS2WW0YzYH CIxPduZ7EBTfdQ2Q6fAKcTfM9gBPJQLkol6fpdbnoDICniNUAPxBUQtA9iHXRh9up2+/ RDZX68WImKY8rc9kDBJ0M2JcP+6L9dZZxiXhOTu9HzKP2rWbcQSz0o5aaCIVKE9djRES QnHQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=kdcJWQuEtQp2lMng+wGYqMrj7xp1in2Yi/n6KVRT034=; b=A6WFnJ4JPhaTGC8eGQIUrIv6ymektzoElJI6q+oNezNUivE3/hrzBw5MF23Nt9B9X6 gfdKIjVzh1NdwyhXlLfOrfYm819WthJqi8XOAdtR8Fql9r98D47pqehmYhaL0dBhyaE8 9Y5riJpp9CqhuxoBD19JPkdQp3EbESaWxVz8M3TFWZCckGHGhLBt8QDNG7KP6XSu33DJ PzE9357cP2qeaHlidfqSHDwqSM3EvlikFMLeEJnx5ChsGoeh5t6jhmMVHbRxahG8i1Fr 07AfFgEncEFz++AqP4BGz//XQjCYVbmD6MVK3nQwJXrKxLCNAZ9HnPoGOsSKloOCnu1D fhtw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kpoHb/jUGR7A4r5SKUeMK13MGeAztz64r7bVv/wf6rkb9xFCq+m 6CLRyNuK6J0lhuy9F4Ko8XD+OgUGOKEvEXI4NbPfVOC5Rio= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXuG5gSM+++y03AXeSiFomQZVLAG7PWiF3QCI1Rz99ocgk20zIfDPzAwD0JHV4wTAq3wW2sUQlU2hXLBI9CZ/yk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3996:b0:4a2:67ea:a06 with SMTP id j22-20020a056512399600b004a267ea0a06mr1076179lfu.580.1674370340645; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 22:52:20 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1889CB4C-4B11-4178-8446-97DA9E5EC35A@nimnet.asn.au> <20230122060127.GB8068@eureka.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: From: Michael Schuster Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 07:52:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Out of order posting (was:: Load 0.20 on a freshly installed idle system) To: Paul Procacci Cc: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" , Ian Smith , freeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000606dad05f2d4b92a" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4P03nf1ylXz4K42 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000606dad05f2d4b92a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Late to the party (I admit it), still... On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 07:37 Paul Procacci wrote: > . > Unless I'm using an email client where I can move a cursor to the position > needed to tip me off what kind of posting is required for said email (like > Mutt), then the steps necessary to conform to various `rules' on various > forms/lists/work emails/etc is simply too much work. > In my opinion, if this little piece of effort (which is just a few clicks in my experience on both phone or desktop computer) is more effort than what you're trying to say... Well, you get the idea. Also (and this has been written many times), by you avoiding the effort once of streamlining your response, you're putting that effort on every one of your readers. Also a fact: not once has anyone complained to me about top posting until > now. > Also a fact: I was asked not to bottom post elsewhere albeit quite a long > time ago. > Just as you need to know the different rules for driving in different countries or for speaking different languages (sensibly), there are also slightly different rules on "moving" in different circles. The fact that one community (or was it perhaps a single individual? ) frowns on top posting is just that - one fact. So? Regards Michael [ previous stuff omitted] --000000000000606dad05f2d4b92a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Late to the party (I admit it), still...=C2=A0
On Sun, = Jan 22, 2023, 07:37 Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com> wrote:
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Unless I'm using an email client wh= ere I can move a cursor to the position needed to tip me off what kind of p= osting is required for said email (like Mutt), then the steps necessary to = conform to various `rules'=C2=A0 on various forms/lists/work emails/etc= is simply too much work.

In my opinion, if this little piece o= f effort (which is just a few clicks in my experience on both phone or desk= top computer) is more effort than what you're trying to say... Well, yo= u get the idea.=C2=A0

Al= so (and this has been written many times), by you avoiding the effort once = of streamlining your response, you're putting that effort on every one = of your readers.=C2=A0

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Also a fact: not once has anyone complained to me about top = posting until now.
Also a fact: I was asked not to bottom pos= t elsewhere albeit quite a long time ago.

Just as you need to kn= ow the different rules for driving in different countries or for speaking d= ifferent languages (sensibly), there are also slightly different rules on &= quot;moving" in different circles.=C2=A0
The fa= ct that one community (or was it perhaps a single individual? ) frowns on t= op posting is just that - one fact. So?=C2=A0

Regards=C2=A0
Michael=C2=A0
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