From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 11:49:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E401065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:49:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23A98FC18 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:49:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40ADAFC1C6; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:49:46 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:49:41 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <200812011153.12902.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081201121925.X9499@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20081201121925.X9499@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812011249.44457.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Harry Veltman , Polytropon Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:49:48 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 12:19:50 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > We have a few oldies, just installed KDE 3.5 on a: > > CPU: VIA Nehemiah (997.17-MHz 686-class CPU) > > Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x698 Stepping = 8 > > > > That's pretty much as low as I'd go for normal desktop usage. The machine > > you're describing, still makes for a good router or LAN resolver with low > > KDE make them slow. it's fast machine. It's not about that. I'm not advertizing a certain desktop, I have a personal preference, and I don't feel compelled to convert the heathens to my works of salvation, nor to lie and say that I installed a blank Xorg so that minimalist think I'm cool. Today's desktop *applications* require a certain ammount of resources and since OP already stated to want flash 8 with highbit encryption, you will need firefox and bunch of gstreamer-*/gnome stuff or linux emulation and a lot of good fortune when going with pluginwrapper. This VIA does quite well with devel/skype and fc6 linux emulation, once it started up, tho I haven't tried conference calls and takes 20% cpu just idling. Sure - you can trim down the resources a window manager takes up (which is actually easy to do in KDE, as in XFCE), but it's the applications that want more memory, more power. Natural evolution of the computer age: give a programmer more power, means a user gets more features and a slower comp. I think FreeBSD 5 to 7 is the only software I've seen that actually got faster and not just advertised it ;) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part.