From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 26 14:21:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82E410656C3; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F718FC23; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01286D44C; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:21:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 96135844A3; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:20:59 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Tim Kientzle References: <20090825034054.2d57e733@dev.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20090825134447.GM2829@hoeg.nl> <200908251609.09302.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4A9407D3.60006@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:20:59 +0200 Message-ID: <86hbvu64hg.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:21:01 -0000 Tim Kientzle writes: > The difference between "ps", "ps -w", and "ps -ww" is pretty > significant for Java, in particular. Java command lines > are typically enormous (thank you, CLASSPATH) which makes > "ps -ww" often more annoying than it's worth. Java command lines aren't necessarily enormous. If they are, it is because whoever invoked Java didn't know that it respects the CLASSPATH environment variable, and that setting -classpath on the command line f*s up the user's preferences (e.g. the user may want to replace a particular set of classes with an alternative implementation). DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no