From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 26 00:26:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B1316A473 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E9713C4D9 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:26:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup75.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.75]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lAQ0PlT8011903 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:25:57 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAQ0PiJK004050; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:25:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAQ0PgAl004048; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:25:42 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:25:42 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "eBoundHost: Artur" Message-ID: <20071126002542.GA3696@kobe.laptop> References: <000801c82fa9$7c9ad700$6701a8c0@mobility> <20071125234621.GB3362@kobe.laptop> <000701c82fbf$45d93160$6701a8c0@mobility> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000701c82fbf$45d93160$6701a8c0@mobility> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.944, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.46, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: who wrote this X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:26:11 -0000 On 2007-11-25 17:59, "eBoundHost: Artur" wrote: > yea that's a great answer. thanks for your insight. this is not some > technical question that can be researched, this in fact tarnishes the > image of the freebsd community, so it's not such an easy "go rtfm" > type of deal. The commit logs of the entire FreeBSD source tree are openly visible to everyone. A couple of minutes with Google Groups would be enough to locate this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/fa.freebsd.cvs-all/browse_thread/thread/ee66a0ebc1457b1f/7ea396d642a58806 This is the sort of "research" that I wanted to point you at. > problem is that i just came accross it myself and obviously nothing > has been done about it in the past. The fact that you didn't notice the old commit logs, does not mean that ``nothing has been done about this issue in the past''. Please stop spreading FUD about FreeBSD, because implying that we don't care as a team about these things suggests to readers of freebsd-questions things which are untrue. There are intriguing but nevertheless interesting observations in the thread mentioned above. Please take the time to let some of them sink in before you spread more FUD. > so i would like to ask of people, is there no better way to get the > point accross? do you have to have this wording? is it set in stone > and can't be changed? I insist strongly that we should rework this > example, and if anyone insists strongly on not doing it, I would like > to understand what motive can be possibly behind this other than > something very deeply evil. If you are not bothered by the fact that the fortune cookie database contains Hitler quotes, but you merely want to ammend the text of the web site, then you are more than welcome to post patches to the freebsd-www list. That's where most of the work on the website is discussed, and reviewed. - Giorgos