From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Mar 15 21:38:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C11737B719 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:38:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from powers@b2pi.com) Received: (qmail 49214 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2001 05:38:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Sophie) ([216.254.64.186]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Mar 2001 05:38:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15025.41167.823903.2443@b2pi.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:12:47 -0500 From: Brent B.Powers To: "Andrew C. Hornback" Cc: Subject: Re:Now a little OT but RE: FreeBSD and Linux (More Questions!) In-Reply-To: <016a01c0ac52$29e2d080$0f00000a@eagle> References: <003701c0ac4a$e0a76cc0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <016a01c0ac52$29e2d080$0f00000a@eagle> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.2 (beta45) "Thelxepeia" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew C Hornback writes: >> >also remember working with snow white and the seven dwarfs, >> and >already knew that interoperability was something you got >> in a computer >line, at least until the manufacturer decided to >> play shell games to >kill the third party hardware market. Andrew> Hmm... shall we say, IBM here? Just how many Andrew> manufacturers adopted MCA? IBM, Tandy did a couple of Andrew> machines with it ('course, Tandy always followed IBM's Andrew> lead with strange hardware designs... Tandy 1000 SX Andrew> followed the PC jr., need I say more?). I believe Andrew> Siemens, Northridge, and possibly Fujitsu produced Andrew> machines with MCA support. Anyone know? TI, I'm sure. Same reaons as Radio Shack, but they always went one semi-tech better (8 more octanes than regular IBM gasoline). >> I don't remember if there was a lot of crossover between the >> mainframe and PC people back then - I think the markets were >> pretty foreign to each other. Peter Norton was a mainframe hack. He had a little bit of influence on the PC marketplace... Andrew> There never really was a crossover. Gotta look at the Andrew> big mainframe producers and see where they are now. Andrew> Where's Cray? Last I heard they were part of SGI, who was Andrew> also going in the tank over their line of NT based Andrew> workstations (what the hell were THEY thinking?). IBM's Andrew> Mainframe business... how many ES/9000s do you see being Andrew> sold each year? They've moved to the AS/400 and RS/6000 Andrew> lines. And Digital? Now a division of Compaq, simply Andrew> because Compaq couldn't build a high end machine to save Andrew> their life and didn't know what good customer support was. Andrew> Then there was Unisys and their Clearpath line, which may Andrew> still exist, not really sure. But I know they've cut out Andrew> their consumer PC division, and used a lot of resources to Andrew> build the new high end servers that have CMP technology. Andrew> What about Data General, or Wang, or ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message