From owner-freebsd-java Thu Apr 29 18:52:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C6214CE2 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:52:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA35136; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:49:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Richard Levenberg Cc: J_Shevland@TurnAround.com.au, java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can I help with the JDK2 port? In-Reply-To: <99Apr28.174919pdt.26883@bohica.con.securecomputing.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Richard Levenberg wrote: > Joe, > > I appreciated your comments and was surprised at Nate William's reply. I > gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed that I had missed > something on the website (http://www.freebsd.org/java). I went back to > look for something like an anonymous CVS, or something that I could just > look at and decide for myself whether I was capable and had the time. I > still havent found anything. You guys are offering to do something that is not needed, and are complaining because, when you offer to do 1% of the work, everyone doesn't shower you with roses. The porting's a lot of REAL work, and the guys who know how to do it are all currently kinda tied up. It's not here now, and taking pot shots at Nate, who actually HAS provided code, comes ill from a bunch of folks who haven't provided anything at all. You haven't even bothered to check out the Sun web site, and if you deny it, then how come you didn't know about Sun making the source code available? It's on their web site, they didn't hide it. You want the code, go get it. I get a little hot at folks getting shirty about not treating their offers as if they were real work. Read this list a little, and you'll see offers come all the time, but real work doesn't. If you want folks to take you seriously, don't offer things, show stuff you've already done. God knows there's enough things to do. Good intentions are not good deeds. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message