From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 3 11:45:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD001AF5 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 11:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU004-OMC3S22.hotmail.com (blu004-omc3s22.hotmail.com [65.55.116.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 932AA1C2D for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 11:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from BLU436-SMTP251 ([65.55.116.73]) by BLU004-OMC3S22.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Wed, 3 Jun 2015 04:44:20 -0700 X-TMN: [inXPP5b8IJzi198Ls+BInfzMvplBQOQP] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@outlook.com] Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 07:44:17 -0400 From: Carmel NY To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: cups, and hplip too, fail to recognize printer when I try to print In-Reply-To: <544000.23949.bm@smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <263570.73680.bm@smtp114.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4321846.9hHPBs9sCR@desk8.phess.net> <2166876.6zk2LzEg5t@mercury.ph.man.ac.uk> <2323011.3jCvCUZvQ4@desk8.phess.net> <544000.23949.bm@smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2015 11:44:19.0425 (UTC) FILETIME=[A081C510:01D09DF2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 11:45:28 -0000 The problem has nothing to do with proprietary drivers, etcetera but rather the extremely fractured system of printing on non MS Windows based systems. I have had extensive conversations with representatives from Brother and while they do include PPD's and other assorted files for some of their printers, they claim it is just not financially feasible to do so for all their products, ie, scanners, copiers, etcetera due to the multiple platforms that they would be required to support. They need only support one when working with MS Windows, If the *nix community would come together and devise one consistent printing system, they would be inclined to support it. They informed me that due to the way FreeBSD likes to due things differently than anyone else, they would never in all likely hood support it directly. This is not a problem with the manufacturers, it is a fundamental flaw in the way *nix handles printers, copiers, FAX machines, scanners, etcetera. You might want to check out this URL: Specifically this portion for starters: PDF is the standard print job format from CUPS 1.6.x on All important desktop applications (GTK/GNOME, Qt/KDE, LibreOffice/OpenOffice.org, Firefox, Thunderbird, ...) send print jobs in PDF and not in PostScript any more by default. In addition, a complete CUPS filter chain to process print jobs in PDF is available and used. -- Carmel