From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 18 19:21:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC3A106566C for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: from zid.claresco.hr (zid.claresco.hr [85.114.42.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357C08FC1F for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: (qmail 54135 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Mar 2008 20:21:20 +0100 To: Kris Kennaway Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWgnbRLVpRNVY9jMRPh s21jSlEyNVX45Mv4zI+sbUclFAtMVpT8V0lFAAACZ0lEQVR4nG3Tv2vbQBQHcFMogWyeNeVK BLXGl5j6xnABOaNTuXFGmWpwtw519yj4soW6AatT4GKD3+aDZrl/rt/Tr9qlGiz7Pn7v3bsf HVc/NrIiSfElqH53GgijcCqzk/+AmBF5cN0DsFlIRGMh/oHuqxkTM6VlzB4EoZEs2aSZOASb EQJYZpweQshE697GTDndBXtgp9LIT9+OpDGHEfb9knk+nx+jfN1JCVZMCl6XwFm0a2EXztZD 3s4fj47ZbKI2VeBmJImeEfGLJ+M9sDPilX7IB5rN6sdfcGhuoHU+LC4nxfnI7YOJtdb95Gb+ fbgJ2uJ2ZgaA++f5ZzBqNCCYfMTd5q0BfBVNqm7I8gUjQ+YtXotRW6PH9AEj+dKs/KuNQAl5 o/NY+QkonW8aQAl0oXMYPvRiXIM4pRJifbXytnhTA8alBx/jefG2ar3DBlt34/PXz9M+nMVN iNaPUdCApJc2ItejOmLGoK1qQLV9pJmXBnL10DYoBA5aHNfj8ZNwZa5O4CzgTJeilKJmrQJs IHIt1/7/Sg2p3iq/Hz0/5W05rq4M9aN2B5FLohUP4ylVyfxhEIjAs8J4PhIJ9U+CEroogib5 BXAf7bB4vkfAzgPFt1tM9sJZAOH+lCexhwswuNtim4QTZdokqo4o89LkH7V6iFxICeqfp+Wh fmUuGPunLj2Meti6Cn4DjJ/UReROqR+aqawAi/JkfgKE64rrfkhjU8MtT8ivR4S5n6Yo08A7 HvgAlHDWRSGlNSDxwK9HtXy4FS2I60EdUIJM+Ut9OZNJG4CpbEQW1VBQoQoPuBw2EVa4P0u0 TgzQF+VoAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: <47C749CF.4010501@FreeBSD.org> (Kris Kennaway's message of "Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:54:55 +0100") References: <867igo3cih.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> <47C749CF.4010501@FreeBSD.org> Organization: *BSD Users - Fanatics Dept. From: Marko Lerota Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:21:20 +0100 Message-ID: <86eja7et3j.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:21:34 -0000 Kris Kennaway writes: >> Then the servers. Why should I reinstall all my databases and such? >> I always >> liked that FreeBSD base (OS) is separated from packages. And no >> matter what I do with the packages, my OS will always work. I don't >> want dependency >> hell like in Linux. Now you are telling me that my database might not work >> after upgrade to a new version. Is that it? > > First, try to relax. Sorry, but I'm pissed off now, not relax any more. > portupgrade -faP requests to reinstall everything from precompiled > packages. It will only fall back to compiling them locally if the > package is unavailable (e.g. for legal reasons). It passed two days from portupgrade -faP, and it didn't finished yet. To be worse, I have to do it again because the PC had to be rebooted. So in the next 2-3 days I can sit with my PC and wait with him to finish the upgrade. It will be three days because of Openoffice!@#!@#!@#!. And I have to pray the god that I don't have the power loss. Now apache and acroread doesn't work any more and I'm afraid that I'll find some other stuff that don't work too. So can anyone tell me this is not stupid??? Reinstalling all applications because of upgrade? This can be called new installation. Not upgrade. Now I'm thinking that It would be much easier that I backup my files, databases and other stuff and do fresh installation. But why???? So I can do the same thing when 8_0 comes out? This is the worst thing that I found about FreeBSD for now. This have to be changed or fixed somehow, because the upgrade is not possible if you have lots of ports installed, and certainly can't be called upgrade! -- One cannot sell the earth upon which the people walk Tacunka Witco