From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 27 07:37:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26180 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 07:37:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from armstrong-bh.armstrong.com (armstrong-bh.armstrong.com [198.76.107.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26171 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 07:37:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Edmund_L_Mulligan@armstrong.com) From: Edmund_L_Mulligan@armstrong.com Received: (from uucp@localhost) by armstrong-bh.armstrong.com (8.8.8/8.6.11) id KAA07715; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 10:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailex01.armstrong.com(172.16.23.51) by armstrong-bh.armstrong.com via smap (4.1) id xma007450; Mon, 27 Jul 98 10:36:07 -0400 Received: by mailex01.Armstrong.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 8525664E.00515D26 ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 10:48:42 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARMSTRONG To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: djv@bedford.net Message-ID: <8625664E.004F5671.00@mailex01.Armstrong.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:37:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Supported Hardware in FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There are versions of the Celeron on the way that do have some L2 cache on board, but only 128 instead of 512(?). If anyone is looking to buy a Celeron, they are certainly into the "cheap" computer range (Welcome! I'm here too.) SCSI and dual PII isn't a serious suggestion. Something to dream about, but probably not a reality. You've probably made the motherboard 2 to 3 times more expensive. The Celeron uses the same socket, but a different support system. The chip will fit into the socket but may or may not be mechanically secure. It uses a different heatsink as well. Intel has the specs for Slot 1 as a .pdf file on their web pages somewhere. www.tomshardware.com is a good place to look into the Celeron issues, including overclocking. I considered this option as well, until I saw that the price difference between it and the regular PII really wasn't enough to make a difference. Besides, you can overclock the PII, except for Intel's recent change that supposedly disables the higher clock multiplier pins on the PII-233. If you are running good ram, you can always keep the same multiplier and change the bus speed. djv@bedford.net on 07/25/98 08:30:35 PM Please respond to djv@bedford.net To: swwilso1@students.uiuc.edu cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (bcc: Edmund L Mulligan/Stillwater/FPO/Armstrong) Subject: Re: Supported Hardware in FreeBSD The absence of L2 cache will cause you /major/ performance penalties, especially in a multitasking environment. The Celeron is for single-tasking, single-user application. ------------- I'd bite the bullet and get a twin PII mobo with onboard-SCSI and Ethernet; one capable of "fast" PCI bus, whatever that is these days. (100MHz? I dunno...). Save money elsewhere, then add a second PII when your bank account is recovered. (Probably about the same time as the SMP from 3.0 reaches -STABLE.) ------------- THIS IS A GUESS: (somebody correct me, in other words) I believe the Celeron uses a different socket than the PII, in other words, you can't upgrade to a PII later. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message