From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 9 3: 4:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F9A37B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 03:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.seattleFenix.net (seattleFenix.net [216.39.145.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C479E43E4A for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 03:04:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roo@mail.seattleFenix.net) Received: (from roo@localhost) by mail.seattleFenix.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g79A48h41490; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 03:04:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roo) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 03:04:08 -0700 From: Benjamin Krueger To: sagacious Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cell phone crap. Message-ID: <20020809030407.I36656@mail.seattleFenix.net> References: <20020809011505.H36656@mail.seattleFenix.net> <000201c23f84$07c948a0$0a01a8c0@MIKESBOX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000201c23f84$07c948a0$0a01a8c0@MIKESBOX>; from sagacious@unixhideout.com on Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 05:06:21AM -0400 X-PGP-Key: http://www.macguire.net/benjamin/public_key.asc Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not prone to disparage a person's reputation, however I believe it fair to relay a response to what I thought was an honest and respectful suggestion. I only do so in hopes that other folks might steer clear of engaging with this individual and wasting their time. Regards, * sagacious (sagacious@unixhideout.com) [020809 02:05]: > Go fuck yourself. > > sagacious (Mike) > Network administrator > The unixhideout network > http://www.unixhideout.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Krueger [mailto:benjamin@seattleFenix.net] > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 4:15 AM > To: Mike > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Cell phone crap. > > * Mike (root@unixhideout.com) [020808 09:19]: > > > > > At 2002-08-08T08:16:09Z, "Mike" writes: > > > > > >> I'm not on this list to do the FreeBSD's teams bitch work. > > > > > > You know, I think that you just guaranteed that *noone* connected > with > > > FreeBSD is going to help you out on this one. I don't think that > > > anyone's getting paid to do their "bitch work", so I don't know what > > > crack you smoked to make you think that they owe it to you. > > > > > >> Make a spam team that does nothing but moderate the list's and ban > > >> losers that spam. > > > > > > Excellent idea! When do you start? > > > -- > > > Kirk Strauser > > > > > "bitch work" was a little out of line. I apologize. But i think you > took > > it the wrong way. What i really meant by that was i dont feel i or > anyone > > else should have to put wasted effort into something that an > administrator > > with correct privledges could easily stop in the very beginning before > it > > becomes that much of a problem. Again, none of my domains get spam > that > > isnt easily taken care of. Your crack comment was cute. I now know the > > majority of what im dealing with, and why these lists get spam. > > These lists already employ standard practice spam filtering methods. > Sometimes > stuff still gets through, but that number is dwarfed by the number of > spams it > successfully prevents. You fail to realize that there is no "authority" > here. > The folks who maintain the lists are volunteers. Everyone is a > volunteer. If > you would like to help, then by all means offer your services. > > You have no idea what the "majority of what you're dealing with" is. > There > literally a few ten thousands of subscribers to the list. Your broad > generalization of an attempted insult isn't cute or productive. I'm sure > folks > would appreciate it if you kept it to a minimum so we can keep the noise > down. > The lists don't get spam because somebody disagrees with you. The lists > get spam > because spammers are still in business. > > Perhaps it would be more efficient and productive if you went and > whined at > the spammers and their ISPs instead of subjecting a few thousand people > to > your incessant whining that a FREE resource maintained by Volunteers who > are > not compensated in any material way for their efforts is not up to your > personal standards. > > With particular respect, > > -- > Benjamin Krueger > > "Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about." > - Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900) > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Send mail w/ subject 'send public key' or query for (0x251A4B18) > Fingerprint = A642 F299 C1C1 C828 F186 A851 CFF0 7711 251A 4B18 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message