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Date:      Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:21:06 -0600
From:      "Alex Huppenthal" <alex@aspenworks.com>
To:        "Richard Hodges" <rh@matriplex.com>, "Harti Brandt" <brandt@fokus.gmd.de>
Cc:        <freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: ATM 4.3 and so on
Message-ID:  <002101c0bdf4$cfd226e0$1800a8c0@d7k>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10104050937080.45890-100000@mail.matriplex.com>

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Fore support is actually very good. They have the linux code drivers,
documentation on various parts of the PCA 200 for driver developers.. I am
now somewhat experienced with Windozes 2K Advanced server support for the
PCA200.

It appears to do policing and pacing (ingress and egress respectively), have
support for muiltple PVCs, ATM/ARP server support, and an interesting blob
of IP related options, such as PPP over ATM, ELAN support, etc. etc.

It's kinda flaky, in my opinion. It took more than a week to get it
operating relatively smoothly. It still loses connection to the card, causes
infinite boot times, and login time, periodically.. It does not however,
fragment PDUs in a way which results in a  'fragment attack' PDU discard at
the Xedia/Lucent router CBQ layer.

For now, my network is running ATM via W2K to a couple of Ethernet ports.
Not wildly speedy, but it's just a dual pentium pro with 1 meg of cache a
256M of memory, what seems to be about 1/4 the horsepower required to lift
the 2K OS off the ground.. ;-)

I'm ready to throw a couple hundred bucks into the puzzle of why our FreeBSD
4.3 OS/stack/driver creates this frags. I have cell pacing sorta fixed by
causing our OC-3 circuit to pace cells outbound - it has a 32MB buffer, so
dummynet should throttle the overall rate out, and the OC3 lucent card can
pace each cell group out.


 -Alex


At 04:34 AM 04/05/2001, you wrote:
>It looks like a new version of the drivers are on the way. More features,
>better compatibility, and supported since they are just being written. The
>downside is that they won't be ready until mid-May.
>
>A member of the tech team indicated they he was unable to build
the -current
>version of BSD with the ATM HARP stack, which is what we use. I'm
continuing
>the investigation.
o
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Hodges" <rh@matriplex.com>
To: "Harti Brandt" <brandt@fokus.gmd.de>
Cc: "Alex Huppenthal" <alex@aspenworks.com>; <freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: ATM 4.3 and so on


> On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Harti Brandt wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Richard Hodges wrote:
> >
> > RH>The third would be suitable for filling a DS3 (96000 cells/s), and
the
> > RH>fourth could carry 10 mb/s of user data.  Keep in mind that this is
per
> > RH>VC, so if you have many going at once, you may still exceed your cell
> > RH>rate.  I believe that the Fore card expects this rate info in network
> > RH>byte order, but if not, just remove the "htonl()" from the macro.
There
> > RH>are many more possible values; let me know if you want the rest.
> > RH>
> > RH>And I haven't tested this myself, so if you give it a try, please let
> > RH>us all know how it works :-)
>
> > For what I know, this works only for a single VC. As soon as you try to
> > shape more than one VC, things go wrong. Three years ago a Fore engineer
> > told me, that they are going tu support shaping of up to 32 VC's 'in the
> > Windows driver'... :-(
>
> Well, that ^h^h^h^h^h is not good.  From the rate control values, it
> did look like some kind of burst/skip system.  Both values add up to
> 255.  Could it be that the rate is actually the entire interface rate
> while that PDU is sent?  That would make it complicated to handle
> multiple VCs, but not impossible.  Unfortunately, the cell spacing
> would probably still be a problem.
>
> Yuck.
>
> I think I will stick with the ForeLE (IDT) cards.
>
> All the best,
>
> -Richard
>
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>
>


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