From nobody Tue Sep 16 23:11:03 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cRHhL123Qz67mCB; Tue, 16 Sep 2025 23:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Received: from smtpo75.interia.pl (smtpo75.interia.pl [217.74.67.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cRHhK3q3rz3qSP; Tue, 16 Sep 2025 23:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 01:11:03 +0200 From: vermaden Subject: Re: Why pkg(8) is NOT bootstrapped in PKGBASE install by default? To: Sulev-Madis Silber , "stable@freebsd.org" , freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: interia.pl/pf09 In-Reply-To: References: <0100019954a0298d-e00ba983-7e29-427a-a67c-b2bdf11d122e-000000@email.amazonses.com> X-Originating-IP: 45.148.42.23 Message-Id: List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=interia.pl; s=biztos; t=1758064266; bh=DQtBsVHyjPZRE4MZZO6hETWsaizi97yuFkaBIkibgCs=; h=Date:From:Subject:To:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QOJj11j3yKXIaYxDWx7b4hL9F4rUNZHJjYI3ERekWb2hS5vzjGu0LpyHfIW4SdLW4 XKx6TZJ1a3kXS27S54zOA2je/GWa4h+2+OsYjCO3xLV4vAuk2cgsO9m7iVL3tj9Ei4 W+UyCc/yCCV9D64zx/2puhrVpsGb/8O9DtH6y2i8= X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16138, ipnet:217.74.64.0/22, country:PL] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cRHhK3q3rz3qSP I used this image: - FreeBSD-15.0-ALPHA2-amd64-20250914-da62a299de31-280122-disc1.iso Its official 15.0-ALPHA2 'disc1.iso' image. Regards, vermaden Temat: Re: Why pkg(8) is NOT bootstrapped in PKGBASE install by default? Data: 2025-09-17 0:49 Nadawca: "Sulev-Madis Silber" <freebsd-stable-freebsd-org730@ketas.si.pri.ee> Adresat: stable@freebsd.org; > memstick too i hope? > > or any installer which contains pkgbase? > > or perhaps any installer? > > i don't get why this decision was made. you can always upgrade pkg. > but what if it's truly offline? > > i never understood why pkg is not in base. after all that's like most > important tool ever. especially now > > yeah, everyone can take src and build whatever installer they want > but hell with those defaults > > only reason here is that pkg should always be latest and can't in > some cases be upgraded? > > at least give me reasons i can disagree with!