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Date:      Thu, 29 Aug 2019 06:21:48 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Kirill Ponomarev <krion@FreeBSD.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r510145 - head/sysutils/screen
Message-ID:  <6624DB64-13E5-494D-AC1D-16D002AD5D2E@cschubert.com>
In-Reply-To: <20190829130900.7qqm5rv3z3zgnmdw@ivaldir.net>
References:  <201908290638.x7T6cVFc033808@repo.freebsd.org> <201908291230.x7TCUgKI027625@slippy.cwsent.com> <20190829124225.r7gpumnvtbeguuoz@ivaldir.net> <201908291254.x7TCsFCI051889@slippy.cwsent.com> <20190829130900.7qqm5rv3z3zgnmdw@ivaldir.net>

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On August 29, 2019 6:09:00 AM PDT, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD=2Eorg> =
wrote:
>On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 05:54:15AM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
>> In message <20190829124225=2Er7gpumnvtbeguuoz@ivaldir=2Enet>, Baptiste=
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>> Daroussin wr
>> ites:
>> >=20
>> >
>> > --vmfceac25l47d6el
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
>> > Content-Disposition: inline
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 05:30:42AM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
>> > > In message <201908290638=2Ex7T6cVFc033808@repo=2Efreebsd=2Eorg>, Ki=
rill
>Ponomar=3D
>> > ev=3D20
>> > > wri
>> > > tes:
>> > > > Author: krion
>> > > > Date: Thu Aug 29 06:38:31 2019
>> > > > New Revision: 510145
>> > > > URL: https://svnweb=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/changeset/ports/510145
>> > > >
>> > > > Log:
>> > > >   Remove building man page by default=2E It's currently broken on
>HEAD
>> > > >   and requires to build textproc/groff which requires
>devel/llvm80
>> > > >   which is an overkill for using screen=2E
>> > > >
>> > > > Modified:
>> > > >   head/sysutils/screen/Makefile
>> > > >
>> > > > Modified: head/sysutils/screen/Makefile
>> > > >
>=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D=
3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D
>> >
>=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D=
3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D
>> >
>=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D=
3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D
>> > =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D
>> > > > =3D3D
>> > > > --- head/sysutils/screen/Makefile	Thu Aug 29 06:37:17
>2019	(r51014
>> > > > 4)
>> > > > +++ head/sysutils/screen/Makefile	Thu Aug 29 06:38:31
>2019	(r51014
>> > > > 5)
>> > > > @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
>> > > > =3D20
>> > > >  PORTNAME=3D3D	screen
>> > > >  PORTVERSION=3D3D	4=2E6=2E2
>> > > > -PORTREVISION=3D3D	1
>> > > > +PORTREVISION=3D3D	2
>> > > >  CATEGORIES=3D3D	sysutils
>> > > >  MASTER_SITES=3D3D	GNU \
>> > > >  		ftp://ftp=2Egnu=2Eorg/gnu/screen/ \
>> > > > @@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ COMMENT=3D3D	Multi-screen window manager
>> > > >  LICENSE=3D3D	GPLv3
>> > > > =3D20
>> > > >  OPTIONS_DEFINE=3D3D		INFO MAN NETHACK XTERM_256 SHOWENC SYST
>> > EM_SCREE
>> > > > NRC
>> > > > -OPTIONS_DEFAULT=3D3D	INFO MAN NETHACK XTERM_256 SOCKETS
>SYSTEM_SCREE
>> > NRC \
>> > > > +OPTIONS_DEFAULT=3D3D	INFO NETHACK XTERM_256 SOCKETS
>SYSTEM_SCREENRC=20
>> > \
>> > > >  			NCURSES_DEFAULT
>> > > >  OPTIONS_SINGLE=3D3D		IPC NCURSES
>> > > >  OPTIONS_SINGLE_IPC=3D3D	SOCKETS NAMED_PIPES
>> > > >
>> > >=3D20
>> > > Should you not have obtained maintainer approval for this first?
>> > >=3D20
>> > > And now the package will not include man pages=2E Can I assign
>those PRs to=3D
>> > =3D20
>> > > you?
>> > >=3D20
>> >
>> > I do think the best approach to this is to drop the MAN page
>option, it mak=3D
>> > es
>> > little sense not to install it=2E and not add groff as a runtime
>dependency
>> > anyway=2E
>>=20
>> I've had this same issue with krb5=2E Pkg end users expect man pages=2E
>>=20
>> >
>> > The reason why man(1) is telling the users to install groff(1) is
>exactly f=3D
>> > or
>> > that, the users do decide if he wants to read that manpage on his
>system an=3D
>> > d do
>> > install groff, or he reads it online and do not install it at all=2E
>the other
>> > point is in the future screen(1) might become mandoc compatible=2E
>and you wi=3D
>> > ll
>> > still grab in the groff(1) dependency=2E
>>=20
>> I'm willing to live with this but it is still disrespectful not to
>involve=20
>> the maintainer=2E
>>=20
>> Can I point to this email thread as a precedent if or when I commit
>to a=20
>> port maintained by someone else?
>
>For sure the maintainer should have been involved! and also my proposal
>if
>different from what has been done here=2E ;)
>
>Best regards,
>Bapt

If and when I have the inclination to look at this, I will=2E In the mean =
time patches are welcome=2E


--=20
Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use=2E
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy=2ESchubert@cschubert=2Ecom>
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	The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few=2E



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