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Date:      Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:45:59 -0500
From:      David Leimbach <leimbacd@bellsouth.net>
To:        Duke Normandin <01031149@3web.net>, Freebsd Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: MT: top-posting
Message-ID:  <01072919455901.00988@mutt.home.net>
In-Reply-To: <20010729160210.B7123@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca>
References:  <15203.62084.40909.149342@guru.mired.org> <20010729160210.B7123@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca>

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> I agree with Mike wholeheartedly!! You guys that are too obstinate to get
> with the program are going straight to /dev/null on my system!
>
That's your decision

> I mostly lurk this list to learn as much as possible. An interesting
> thread begins -- everything is going along smoothly, i.e.,
> question, reply, another question, reply -- one after the other so that
> aperson can follow the sequence of events (and screw-ups), then some
> freaking yahoo top-posts, and the subsequent comments/replies are
> bottom-posted. THEN we have one hell of a mess!! What the hell is so hard
> to understand about THAT!

Nothing.
>
> Look... as far as I'm concerned, it's not that top-posting is inherently
> a "bad thing". The problem occurs when a thread has a combo of top AND
> bottom posting. Have it *all* top-post or bottom-post -- I don't give a
> shit; but let's not mix the two! Let's agree on a standard and stick to
> it. You contrary sons-of-bitches who exist only to make life
> miserable/hard on others and consistently insist in going against the
> grain --- guru or not, you'll be in my bit bucket as quick as I can hit
> the <Del> key.

Or you could moderate the list like a USENET newsgroup.  Or force people to 
use a webform to submit answers/questions through.  Or create an app that 
forces compliance to this standard.  Until that happens you will always have 
newbie "sons-of-bitches" who don't realize that this is considered bad form 
to the list veterans.  

>
> Mike, I've had a "postponed" message on my system for a month or so,
> wondering whether or not I should *again* broach the issue. Glad you
> spoke up! Bottom line though -- how are we going to resolve this? Is
> having a vote feasible?

I don't think we need to vote.  We just need to get the word out that this is 
what we want!

Dave

[I pretty much agree that the format I just used is far more informative.  
The arguments against top/bottom posting are clear and good... I will try to 
conform to this style as much as possible... ]



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